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June 26th, 2020, 01:57 PM
FishHog

If you are going to email your pal at least write void across the pic. There have been many scams of people buying with others pals. Too much fraud these days unfortunately. Or cover part with your thumb etc. It’s no problem if the seller is legit but hard to be sure
June 26th, 2020, 02:34 PM
Fox

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

After checking the C-71 status,it was proclaimed into law on June 19 2019 requiring a seller of an NR to check the validity of the purchasers PAL by calling 1-800-731-4000. Evidently,it's an automated system where you simply input the number and the info returned is immediate. I stand corrected. The government must think that there's a pile of fake PALS out there.

Basil Borutski, he is the guy who killed 3 women around Wilno on Sept 22 2015. He had a PAL, they took it away from him but not the physical card, I guess he claimed he did not have it. He used that card to buy a gun and ammo that he used to commit the crime.

If you have a PAL and it is revoked or suspended but you still have a card how are people to know that is it valid?
June 26th, 2020, 02:48 PM
Snowwalker

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Originally Posted by Deer Hunter

I do not communicate with CFP when selling a non restricted firearms. I just make sure the buyer has a valid PAL. That's all you need to do. I don't want CFP knowing nothing about my legal activities.

Quote: Non-restricted
You do not need to register non-restricted firearms. That means you can transfer a non-restricted firearm without contacting the Canadian Firearms Program (CFP). However, the transferor (seller, giver) must make sure that the transferee (buyer, recipient) has a valid PAL. Call the CFP at 1-800-731-4000 to confirm the validity of the transferee's licence before you transfer the firearm.

Little bit of double talk there. First section is all you need to know. Every thing else is scare tactics.
June 26th, 2020, 03:43 PM
canadaman30

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Originally Posted by fishhawk

Last few years there's been many cases of scam's committed with would be buyer's sellers asking for pics of pals.

What kind of scams?
June 26th, 2020, 04:25 PM
rick_iles

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Originally Posted by Snowwalker

Little bit of double talk there. First section is all you need to know. Every thing else is scare tactics.

Not really, since C71, Seller has to verify PAL is valid with CFP....
June 26th, 2020, 04:36 PM
fratri

Well after looking into Canada Post shipping information.... I think I will just wait until they get back to normal business or sell local...

Due to changes to our delivery processes for COVID-19, all firearms must be shipped by Regular or Expedited Parcel and include the Proof of Age option. Consumers have to open a Solutions for Small Business account and create labels for shipping firearms using the online shipping tool, Snap Ship.
June 26th, 2020, 05:02 PM
rick_iles

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Originally Posted by fratri

Well after looking into Canada Post shipping information.... I think I will just wait until they get back to normal business or sell local...

Due to changes to our delivery processes for COVID-19, all firearms must be shipped by Regular or Expedited Parcel and include the Proof of Age option. Consumers have to open a Solutions for Small Business account and create labels for shipping firearms using the online shipping tool, Snap Ship.

Amazing....they sure don’t want to make things easier do they !!!!
June 26th, 2020, 05:11 PM
trimmer21

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Originally Posted by fratri

Well after looking into Canada Post shipping information.... I think I will just wait until they get back to normal business or sell local...

Due to changes to our delivery processes for COVID-19, all firearms must be shipped by Regular or Expedited Parcel and include the Proof of Age option. Consumers have to open a Solutions for Small Business account and create labels for shipping firearms using the online shipping tool, Snap Ship.

Ship through another carrier like UPS or FedEx. Can Post and Purolator aren't the only game in town.
June 26th, 2020, 06:10 PM
gbk

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

After checking the C-71 status,it was proclaimed into law on June 19 2019 requiring a seller of an NR to check the validity of the purchasers PAL by calling 1-800-731-4000. Evidently,it's an automated system where you simply input the number and the info returned is immediate. I stand corrected. The government must think that there's a pile of fake PALS out there.

I do not believe in conspiracy theories,and do not read much into things..............but the way this process is worded, makes me think there is a backdoor registry "in a way".At least they will know who buys ,and who sells.Privately.Thru stores they already know who bought what and when.
If the seller claims otherwise-No(i did not check with you CFP),i sold it anyway,so i dont have it anymore.......because it is a law(C-71)the person can be nailed.
June 26th, 2020, 06:29 PM
rick_iles

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Originally Posted by gbk

I do not believe in conspiracy theories,and do not read much into things..............but the way this process is worded, makes me think there is a backdoor registry "in a way".At least they will know who buys ,and who sells.Privately.Thru stores they already know who bought what and when.
If the seller claims otherwise-No(i did not check with you CFP),i sold it anyway,so i dont have it anymore.......because it is a law(C-71)the person can be nailed.

I doubt there are any questions or reference to what gun is being sold, just the validity of the purchasers PAL. I haven’t tried the system out, though....

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