Scrapping Reg 274 - Aligning teachers unions to reality

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Originally Posted by fishermccann

41... How or why, would you expect someone retired from their profession for numerous years, ( my wife is friends with a teacher, that retired 14 years ago, who got the call requesting her return to class, my wife has only been retired for 7 years so that call was expected.), to have kept up with todays teaching methods or computer learning , no matter their seniority?

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There is an old saying, "those than can do, those that can't teach".........I am not saying that there is any truth to it but there is a reason why it is an old saying?

From the news

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Originally Posted by krakadawn

The teachers in my family all went to work ....no one refusing anything.....working every day! Where do you keep finding this BS....no one thinks they're special....other than perhaps you

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Originally Posted by fishermccann

Or because of their colour. That is how they are going to make the teachers at a particular school, reflect the makeup of the students. The government itself , has said that is part of the plan. Teachers will be moved from one school to another, because of the colour of their skin. ' We need 6 more black teachers at school X, so we have to move 6 white teachers somewhere else'. No matter their seniority..... Fair?

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I don't think that theory would work why are we going to divide them when there is already so much race ?
They should be mixed in amongst all the school's not seperate them by color that's so racist lol.

That's why the century old battle continues to this day .



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So only unions can do the Job??? That is a Laugh. Good One.

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Originally Posted by fishermccann

Or because of their colour. That is how they are going to make the teachers at a particular school, reflect the makeup of the students. The government itself , has said that is part of the plan. Teachers will be moved from one school to another, because of the colour of their skin. ' We need 6 more black teachers at school X, so we have to move 6 white teachers somewhere else'. No matter their seniority..... Fair?

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Originally Posted by 410001661

I'm not saying she has to keep up.........but if she wants to keep teaching she needs to show her value. I could care less if she taught for 40 years, if she does not know what the cloud is or how to do a Zoom call she is obsolete and now will be able to enjoy her retirement while giving someone else that chance to show their merit.

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41, that's a reasonable assessment of the situation. This situation would apply to a retiree of any occupation.....correct? If you wish to return to the work place be sure you are current.

Glad to see you felt it was ok for her to stay retired and enjoy her retirement. I mention that because in the previous thread a number of posts berated those who were retired for not answering the call and returning to work.

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Originally Posted by MikePal

The union will still be there..any hanky panky in the hiring will draw grievances...Principles don't hire persay (maybe final word) but the selection process involves others.

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Unions are there for their Members. Unless teachers unions differ from others and retirees still pay dues and are members while retired, your no longer a member and only working members get represented. You can't grieve squat when your not a member..

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Originally Posted by fratri

I guess it's always greener on the other side of the grass

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Not sure what you mean by that. There's dirt on the other side of the grass.

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Originally Posted by TroutSlayer

Not sure what you mean by that. There's dirt on the other side of the grass.

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Ya, my bad, it should have read, greener on the other side of the fence :)

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Originally Posted by krakadawn

41, that's a reasonable assessment of the situation. This situation would apply to a retiree of any occupation.....correct? If you wish to return to the work place be sure you are current.

Glad to see you felt it was ok for her to stay retired and enjoy her retirement. I mention that because in the previous thread a number of posts berated those who were retired for not answering the call and returning to work.

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The issue with these topics is there is no absolutism - we all have friends or family that do not fit this mold or description. On the other hand we see something reported in the news that teachers do not want to go back to work because of COVID - it could be just a handful of teachers expressing these concerns but because of the deplorable quality of our news feeds we never know how the true facts behind that statement.

We need to understand that if something is said about a group of people there will always be those that do not reflect that statement. So when we discuss or debate a topic you cannot say I know a teacher that.....bla, bla, bla and your statement is incorrect. As with statistics you cannot use one data point, that is an outlier, to disprove a theory.