Will out epidemic turn into a full blown pandemic

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Originally Posted by 410001661

So with that mentality we should keep the status quo and continue to play catch and release with drug dealers, gang members and criminals? I am assuming, like the Canadian debt, that most liberals believe Justin and the problem will just fix itself?

Strip prisoners of many of their 'rights' and pack them in the jails with little to no creature comforts and fill the jails to the brim. When that happens use the CERB money and build more but not on prime land that is valuable and expensive but in remote areas that are experiencing high unemployment. This Liberal hug a thug/crime management experiment needs to end and end soon - we need a criminal justice system.

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America tried that 3 strikes and you're out for the last 25 years and it got them nowhere,they are now looking at model,s from Germany on prison reform and rehab that actually works.

There are a lot of folks in jail in Canada hat do not need to be there,minor offences,many for drugs where they were harming themselves. Jail should be for the hard core career criminals and I agree with you it should be much more uncomfortable.
But the truth is that under either Liberal or Conservative parties no changes have been made because you have Lawyers running the whole game.

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Originally Posted by line052

So I work right in front of the mission and during the whole CERB payment time, everyone there has been getting CERB helped by the staff to apply. OD and drug crisis has gone up and in fact Saturday night past, 4 died. No COVID at Mission, but averaging 3-4 deaths per week down here because of opioids..

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I saw an interview with a few of the Chiefs on the reserves and they are angry over how much damage the CERB has done.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

America tried that 3 strikes and you're out for the last 25 years and it got them nowhere,they are now looking at model,s from Germany on prison reform and rehab that actually works.

There are a lot of folks in jail in Canada hat do not need to be there,minor offences,many for drugs where they were harming themselves. Jail should be for the hard core career criminals and I agree with you it should be much more uncomfortable.
But the truth is that under either Liberal or Conservative parties no changes have been made because you have Lawyers running the whole game.

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Originally Posted by fishfood

I was just looking at the Canada stats for prisoners and it pretty much hasn't changed from the past 20 years . In the mid 90s for inmates at 38 thousand inmates across Canada . I was looking for Ontario information but I found Canada.

As of 2018 there was 40 thousand inmates across Canada. If crime rates are rising why no increase inmates?

Since the beginning they have always been at capacity why not the need for more? .

Oh and they released many because of the pandemic in 2020


https://www.prisonstudies.org/country/canada

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So both conservative and liberal majority governments.

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Originally Posted by fishermccann

So both conservative and liberal majority governments.

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It's an issue that has been left alone for to long .

But our crime rate has been steadily growing over the last 4 years . If you want to play government's fault it has only gone up since Justin Trudeau has been in power.

Crime
Drug over doses
Violence
Shootings

It's all on the rise since your liberal friends

Forgot they could care less about crime , covering up the WE scandal's money laundering complete lack of ethics. Destroying documents he is on the way to a mental break down. He is not fit to be our leader . A leader sets examples not Tell everyone one thing and do another.




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Originally Posted by fishfood

Make more prison's [emoji1787]

Send them to boot camps put them to work for good use. Maybe they learn something they enjoy [emoji12].

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Now you are on to something! Prison is too comfy these days, bring back the chain gangs!

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Originally Posted by oaknut

Now you are on to something! Prison is too comfy these days, bring back the chain gangs!

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Naw Trudeau would say it's slavery [emoji23]


It would be nice why not put them to work. If they didn't want to be there then we'll I guess they'll smarten up lol. They could be doing something useful towards the community.

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Originally Posted by oaknut

I know this sounds extremely harsh but...
Is this not mother nature taking care of herself? Survival of the fittest kind of thing?

Right from when children are old enough to comprehend English their parents, teachers, family, government and TV tell them that drugs will mess you up! Its not the governments fault, the fault only lies with the moron deciding to shoot, snort or smoke the crap.

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Not harsh at all, it's reality.

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Originally Posted by Fisherman

Not harsh at all, it's reality.

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Agreed, it’s natural selection.

But I imagine when it’s someone you know or care for, you feel differently

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It's an issue that has been left alone for to long .

But our crime rate has been steadily growing over the last 4 years . If you want to play government's fault it has only gone up since Justin Trudeau has been in power.

Crime
Drug over doses
Violence
Shootings

It's all on the rise since your liberal friends

Forgot they could care less about crime , covering up the WE scandal's money laundering complete lack of ethics. Destroying documents he is on the way to a mental break down. He is not fit to be our leader . A leader sets examples not Tell everyone one thing and do another.




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Wrong.

Crime in general has declined in Canada since 2000 with the 2018 crime rate around 30 percent lower than peak levels in 2003. Property crime and violent crime have followed this general trend with rates dropping 39 percent and 23 percent respectively during the same time period.Jan 28, 202