Gun ban talks back after a sad weekend in NS

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Considering you do not know what the ban is yet, this might be premature thinking.But I am pretty sure this incident was caused by gun violence.We cannot call it "people violence" he did not strangle the victim's to death he shot them,right?

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The shooter was already banned from owning guns from his past. How good did that work at stopping him?..

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Originally Posted by mikepal

the author of that tripe is a cbc employee...(zero credibility)

https://www.cbc.ca/mediacentre/bio/justin-ling

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all of the allegations of sexual assault made by fake news chanel's and right wing nutter's days prior to an election, which of course the right wingers lost.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Considering you do not know what the ban is yet, this might be premature thinking.But I am pretty sure this incident was caused by gun violence.We cannot call it "people violence" he did not strangle the victim's to death he shot them,right?

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The point is they can ban all the guns they want but the criminals will still have and continue to get guns. They do not follow the laws so a gun ban only affects legal owners. They need to have mandatory jail time if caught with a illegal firearm. Like 10-20 years then they might think twice but instead some get out of jail within 24hrs of being caught with illegal firearms


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Originally Posted by MikePal

It'll be interesting to see how well this all goes, they keep using the comparisons to the tough Gun laws in NZ and Australia...both political knee jerk actions. The forced bans and buybacks are a dismal failure, as they are largely unenforceable.

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I guess your advocating for gun owners to break the law if new laws come into effect.Pretty sure law breaking posts are against the Forum rules.

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Originally Posted by canadaman30

The shooter was already banned from owning guns from his past. How good did that work at stopping him?..

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Yes he was a criminal who committed another criminal act,we will always have criminals in our midst,but the government's job is to try to the best of its ability to minimize harm to the public.

Thank goodness we have a fantastic Prime Minister that is getting the job done as apposed to an opposition Conservative party in complete disarray,with a gutless leader. They cannot even get their act together to choose a new leader and the one they have apparently chosen will be effectively neutered on this gun issue because if he opposes it will get run over by the folk's in Nova Scotia and across the country. LOL

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Originally Posted by Ashes1

The point is they can ban all the guns they want but the criminals will still have and continue to get guns. They do not follow the laws so a gun ban only affects legal owners. They need to have mandatory jail time if caught with a illegal firearm. Like 10-20 years then they might think twice but instead some get out of jail within 24hrs of being caught with illegal firearms

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It was the law....but the Liberals removed it...

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The Supreme Court of Canada dealt the Harper government's tough-on-crime agenda a serious blow Tuesday by striking down a law requiring mandatory minimum sentences for crimes involving prohibited guns.

Justice Minister Peter MacKay said in a statement that the government will review the decision to determine "next steps towards protecting Canadians from gun crime and ensuring that our laws remain responsive."

"Our government will continue to be tough on those who commit serious crimes and endanger our communities," the minister added.
Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau said there is a place for mandatory minimums in certain situations, noting that past Liberal governments have introduced them for "extreme crimes."

"But I think the over-use of them that the Supreme Court has highlighted, by this Conservative government, isn't necessarily doing a service to Canadians, both by not necessarily keeping us that much safer and also wasting large amount of taxpayers dollars on unnecessary court challenges," he told reporters in Oakville.

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But they can waste large amounts of money on unnecessary gun buy back programs...

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Originally Posted by Ashes1

The point is they can ban all the guns they want but the criminals will still have and continue to get guns. They do not follow the laws so a gun ban only affects legal owners. They need to have mandatory jail time if caught with a illegal firearm. Like 10-20 years then they might think twice but instead some get out of jail within 24hrs of being caught with illegal firearms


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Yes he was a criminal who committed another criminal act,we will always have criminals in our midst,but the government's job is to try to the best of its ability to minimize harm to the public.

They have tried mandatory jail terms in the USA and the three strikes and your out policy.They ended up with the biggest jail population basically in the western world and costing the taxpayer,s billions of dollars.
The Americans are now reversing that policy as it was a dismal failure.Kinda like their gun laws are a dismal failure with mass shootings just about every week.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Yes he was a criminal who committed another criminal act,we will always have criminals in our midst,but the government's job is to try to the best of its ability to minimize harm to the public.

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You mean like putting illegal gun owners in jail ?

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Originally Posted by Ashes1

The point is they can ban all the guns they want but the criminals will still have and continue to get guns. They do not follow the laws so a gun ban only affects legal owners. They need to have mandatory jail time if caught with a illegal firearm. Like 10-20 years then they might think twice but instead some get out of jail within 24hrs of being caught with illegal firearms


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Mikepal has posted the following


"Justice Minister Peter MacKay said in a statement that the government will review the decision to determine "next steps towards protecting Canadians from gun crime and ensuring that our laws remain responsive."

Great to know that if he ever get's the Prime Minister's job he will be there to protect the citizens of Canada and especially the people of his home Province Nova Scotia in light of the worse Canadian mass shooting.hear,hear

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Originally Posted by MikePal

You mean like putting illegal gun owners in jail ?

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Yes Michael illegal gun owners do go to jail.Now go back to your room for a nap.