Thinking of getting a 7mm-08

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Originally Posted by Fox

I want to get my wife in to a compact gun that bumps up the energy a bit from what she has now, many of the youth guns are in 243 and I don't want something with such a small bullet as she wants to be able to hunt moose..

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Don't always count them out.
https://www.outdoorlife.com/top-moos...s-and-bullets/

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Originally Posted by canadaman30

Don't always count them out.
https://www.outdoorlife.com/top-moos...s-and-bullets/

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I read that but I don't want to have something that pokes such a small hole in something notorious for taking off after the shot. Take a nice fat healthy animal and poke a tiny hole through it, the fat can clog up that hole in no time and now I have way too much work ahead of me.

I know that they can kill them, just don't want to use such a small bullet. She shoots a 30-30 now and we would have no problem taking it moose hunting but the bullet choices for a tougher bullet and pointed for flatter trajectory do not really work in a 30-30, even her bolt action. The best I can do is a 150gr spitzer point partition, that will cycle and should work well but a 7mm gives so many more bullet options.

Fox makes sense.
To my surprise they can make big exit hole through ribs
7mm sure does have alot of choice. I must admit to be a fan
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Originally Posted by canadaman30

Fox makes sense.
To my surprise they can make big exit hole through ribs
7mm sure does have alot of choice. I must admit to be a fan
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Oh, I can hear that 270 crying from the vault.

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Originally Posted by Fox

I don't know what your problem is but if I have to spell it out for you, here you go.

Cartridges that are legal in Canada that you can shoot deer at 1000 yards

338 Lapua
6.5-300 Weatherby and up
300 Win Mag
7mm Remington Mag

Etc, etc, etc

Google is a great tool

I never said I would be shooting them at 1000 yards, I never said you should shoot them at 1000 yards but 300 yards as the max range for hunting deer in Ontario is only for a specific area and not others, we have massive farmers fields the same as SW Ontario and can legally use rifles. If you are proficient you could shoot a deer a 1000 yards on a farm I have permission on and 5-700 yards on many of the fields around here, period.

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Again as you stated "If you are proficient you could shoot a deer a 1000 yards on a farm I have permission on and 5-700 yards on many of the fields around here, period".
Which cartridge you listed has the retained energy at 1000 yards for an ethical deer round?
What kind of bullet expansion would there be at 1000 yards? Reduced velocity would limit it severely.
It was you that brought up that distance for shooting deer.
And not one of them will not have a rainbow trajectory.
How much experience do you have shooting at targets at 1000 yards?
I do and lots of it.
Glad the Federal government paid for my practice because I would never been able to afford the cost of the rounds I fired down range.
And that was on a range with completely known distances, level ground and wind indicators every 100 yards.
Hunting situations don't present the same conditions.
Hitting is only one thing.
Having the bullet do the proper job also plays a part.

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Originally Posted by oaknut

Oh, I can hear that 270 crying from the vault.

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Indeed, he's cry baby when he doesn't get out..lol

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Originally Posted by Fox

God, you really have to actually read the context. The statement was that there is no need for anything over 300 yards as you cannot have any chance to shoot a deer in Ontario at over that range. Well, around here you could shoot at 1000 yards on a farm I have permission to hunt, that was it.

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I never stated that 300 yards would be maximum but when you brought up 1000 yards for hunting purposes that was at best an exaggeration.
If you would have said 500 yards, yes there is many rounds capable at that distance under the proper circumstances. Ridgeline to ridgeline comes to mind. But it's hard to judge the winds over valleys.
At a 1000 yards with a rifle capable of 1 MOA (pretty good for most hunting rifles) that would leave a 10" group at best.
Add in wind drift and accuracy of range estimation and the grouping will grow. Ground levels will also effect the accuracy.
Far too many variables to hunt at 1000 yards but you threw this into the thread.