Ontario gunsmith shot and killed by police

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

I'd be interested see what's in the ITO that compelled a JP or Judge to sign the warrant. This stuff just doesn't come out of the blue and JP's or Judges just don't give out warrants for shytes and giggles. One thing must be abundantly clear to every level of command and every politician in the Justice Ministry and Ontario Attorney General that's every "i" be dotted and every "t" be crossed properly after someone loses their life. If not or if there's political interference at any level,first degree murder warrants will fall like snowflakes.

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That would be in a perfect world. In the corrupt one we are currently living in all bets are off.

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

I'd be interested see what's in the ITO that compelled a JP or Judge to sign the warrant. This stuff just doesn't come out of the blue and JP's or Judges just don't give out warrants for shytes and giggles. One thing must be abundantly clear to every level of command and every politician in the Justice Ministry and Ontario Attorney General that's every "i" be dotted and every "t" be crossed properly after someone loses their life. If not or if there's political interference at any level,first degree murder warrants will fall like snowflakes.

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The officer (s) who shot him will probably just use the excuse that "the man was holding a gun, I defended myself" The mucky mucks won't be able to argue much if that's the situation?

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Originally Posted by Bushmoose

The officer (s) who shot him will probably just use the excuse that "the man was holding a gun, I defended myself" The mucky mucks won't be able to argue much if that's the situation?

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We need to remember that the SIU aren't policemen,they're lawyers and retired OPP upper command with excellent,demonstrable investigative skills who certainly know bullshyte when they hear it. I believe that there's a lot more going on we know nothing about. If it all turns out to be a case of an operation based on scurilous unverified data,woe betide everyone involved.

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

We need to remember that the SIU aren't policemen,they're lawyers and retired OPP upper command with excellent,demonstrable investigative skills who certainly know bullshyte when they hear it. I believe that there's a lot more going on we know nothing about. If it all turns out to be a case of an operation based on scurilous unverified data,woe betide everyone involved.

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Ok so if this was a Toronto cop. And media says roughly this is port Dover area. When is a Toronto cop no longer a cop? He’s out of his jurisdiction Right
Even with a search warrant with no local cops on site

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Originally Posted by js4fn

Ok so if this was a Toronto cop. And media says roughly this is port Dover area. When is a Toronto cop no longer a cop? He’s out of his jurisdiction Right
Even with a search warrant with no local cops on site

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Not right. An Ontario police officer's jurisdiction is all of Ontario.

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Originally Posted by Badenoch

Not right. An Ontario police officer's jurisdiction is all of Ontario.

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Was he not a Toronto cop?

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Originally Posted by Badenoch

Not right. An Ontario police officer's jurisdiction is all of Ontario.

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Actually, a Police Constable is sworn in by the Crown which gives them authority throughout Canada.

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Originally Posted by js4fn

Was he not a Toronto cop?

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If you mean the shooter,yes. That's immaterial. He/she was still a Police Constable.

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

Actually, a Police Constable is sworn in by the Crown which gives them authority throughout Canada.

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This is correct for RCMP but officers working for an Ontario force are not considered police officers outside of the province. Should the need arise to work outside of our boundaries Ontario police officers need the approval of the province in which they will be operating. Similarly, out-of-province police officers need approval from Ontario if they are going to operate here.

https://www.mcscs.jus.gov.on.ca/engl...ss_border.html

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

Actually, a Police Constable is sworn in by the Crown which gives them authority throughout Canada.



If you mean the shooter,yes. That's immaterial. He/she was still a Police Constable.

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Been a long time, eh.. Trimmer !

always thought a city cop was a city cop. OPP were provincial and RCMP all of Canada.