GRANT: Vaccines will never eliminate COVID

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November 25th, 2021, 02:10 PM
fishfood

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Originally Posted by MarkB

I actually DO NOT PERSONALLY KNOW a single person who just blindly and gleefully took the jab. THAT's HOW KNOW THIS, from my subset of data!

I guess that's when you need to look at other age groups.

I know people have taken the shot to travel go eat in side a restaurant ,just to get back to normal. Not because of their health because they wanted to do something they wanted to do.
For work even knowing they don't want it but the money made them do it . Because they can't afford to loose the high pay have and pay their bills.

That's not choice.

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November 25th, 2021, 02:17 PM
fishfood

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Originally Posted by canadaman30

The vaccines dont stop you from getting or transmitting it. Six family members of mine got covid, three where vaccinated, three were not. We do know for sure two of the vaccinated passed to others. Two were hospitalized, one was vaccinated one was not.

That's what we have been seeing from the beginning family members infecting the entire family . With an effective shot they shouldn't all be getting covid.
When they need to wear a mask to help reduce the chances of catching the virus is not an effective vaccine.

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November 25th, 2021, 02:19 PM
MikePal

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Originally Posted by fishfood

That's not choice.

No that's coercion...
November 25th, 2021, 02:32 PM
MarkB

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Originally Posted by MikePal

Well that helps to explains a lot...maybe you should hang with a better crowd because I trust data from Health Canada/Ont contributors WAY before I believe what one of your friends told you ..HaHa...yes I'm laughing at you...:)

Blah, blah, blah ... Mike, all I can say is, I'm sure happy you're not part of my crowd.
I don't need hypocritical people with superiority complexes in my crowd.

And by the way, again you fail in English ... I didn't say, I don't believe any data published, I said I don't JUST believe any data published.
Big difference.

Now we on grade 5 math AND ENGLISH. Wow. You're more of a circus show every day! And I don't even need to pay for tickets for all
your comedy! LOL.
November 25th, 2021, 02:36 PM
MarkB

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Originally Posted by fishfood

I guess that's when you need to look at other age groups.

I know people have taken the shot to travel go eat in side a restaurant ,just to get back to normal. Not because of their health because they wanted to do something they wanted to do.
For work even knowing they don't want it but the money made them do it . Because they can't afford to loose the high pay have and pay their bills.

That's not choice.

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fishfood, well, I do agree with you ... but here's one important thing I found with everyone.
There were for sure people who ultimately got the shot to get back to normal ... but that doesn't mean those people took the vaccine
like some kind of a compliant sheep. Everyone I spoke to had a moment where they questioned the safety of the vaccine, and weighed out
the risks, and in the end believed it was worth it.

Before there were any mandates ... my company had 90% compliance, not due to being forced, but because a lot of smart people decided to take the vaccine. My company is an Engineering Consultant ... and if you want to talk about a demographic that is skeptical by nature ... and questions everything, that is for sure Engineers. So, they did their homework, and decided to take the vaccine, appreciating the risks.

Also, again, I really would like you to think about this one ... the booster shot take up has been TERRIBLE ... no one really wants it. WHY? If vaxxed were mindless compliant sheep, we would have at least 70% booster uptake by now. We question, and right now, are not convinced of the need.
November 25th, 2021, 03:08 PM
fishfood

Less than 3 per cent of us have boosters. Mainly the old and most valnerable. Our government is still tip towing around them.

They do however show you the boosters given on the vaccine charts now.

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November 25th, 2021, 03:22 PM
smitty55

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Originally Posted by MikePal

Originally the vaccine was to prevent infection and transmission of the Virus

Well that failed so the Dr.s changed their position, Ohh well at least it prevents you from getting sick..

As of today ,in Ont, there are 168 hospitalized patients with Covid...104 (62%) are unvaccinated and 64 (38%) are vaccianted.

So it's failing to keep you from getting infected and failing to keep you from getting sick....

Seriously sick (ICU) patients are still, as it was in the beginning, mostly 60+ yr of age with underlying issues like autoimmune and commodity disease. Same as it was before the vaccine was available. With the waining efficacy of the vaccine with time, that number will continue to climb unless Boosters are provided to those people (which is what they are doing now).

As for the rest (under 60 /healthy) ...getting Booster will not change to outcome. The virus will always be with us, in both the fully vaxxed and the unvaxxed... .

So fully vaxxed coach of the Ottawa Senators Jack Capuano contracted covid along with other members of the team. Most had mild symptoms but as he reported his symptoms were severe enough to send him to hospital and resulted in 4 days of seriously high fever. So much for the vaccine preventing serious symptoms like they would have you believe when they changed their narrative to cover up vaccine failures. Sure didn't prevent him from getting real sick.
https://ottawasun.com/sports/hockey/...-19-experience
November 25th, 2021, 03:51 PM
Badenoch

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Originally Posted by smitty55

So fully vaxxed coach of the Ottawa Senators Jack Capuano contracted covid along with other members of the team. Most had mild symptoms but as he reported his symptoms were severe enough to send him to hospital and resulted in 4 days of seriously high fever. So much for the vaccine preventing serious symptoms like they would have you believe when they changed their narrative to cover up vaccine failures. Sure didn't prevent him from getting real sick.
https://ottawasun.com/sports/hockey/...-19-experience

Must be a false narrative on seat belts too. A friend of mine was in a car crash. Everyone was wearing seat belts. The two passengers were not hurt but he was injured and had to spend a couple days in hospital.
November 25th, 2021, 05:18 PM
impact

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Originally Posted by Badenoch

Must be a false narrative on seat belts too. A friend of mine was in a car crash. Everyone was wearing seat belts. The two passengers were not hurt but he was injured and had to spend a couple days in hospital.

Apples and oranges. You wear a seat belt for an hour a day.
The vax is in your body 24/7 and no getting rid of it.
Try harder....lol
November 25th, 2021, 05:38 PM
finsfurfeathers

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Originally Posted by smitty55

So fully vaxxed coach of the Ottawa Senators Jack Capuano contracted covid along with other members of the team. Most had mild symptoms but as he reported his symptoms were severe enough to send him to hospital and resulted in 4 days of seriously high fever. So much for the vaccine preventing serious symptoms like they would have you believe when they changed their narrative to cover up vaccine failures. Sure didn't prevent him from getting real sick.
https://ottawasun.com/sports/hockey/...-19-experience

One has to wonder without the vax if that 4 days of seriously high fever did not end up in death.

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