There is it, the true spirit of leftism perfectly summed up in a single sentence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
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There is it, the true spirit of leftism perfectly summed up in a single sentence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Residential school survivors and researchers are not disputing the accuracy of their records. There is more work to be done regarding the cemetery in the Sault but it is fallacious to suggest all or even most deaths at residential schools were "crimes."Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Left or right makes no difference, both Liberal and Conservatives Governments have paid out billion over the years and will have to continue paying out, just a simple fact of life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushwhacker
You have to remember there are plenty of First Nations Lawyers these days, well trained.
I agree with Badenoch that we should abandon the anthem before sporting events. Regular sports games are not the Olympics, and you aren’t representing your country. I think it actually devalues the anthem and waters down national belonging / pride by making it something to skip through to get to the action, so to speak.
Leave politics out of sports as much as possible. It's ruining them.
This recent example is just a rebranded version of Kaepernick taking a knee during the anthem -- a cheap stunt to push the woke agenda, using a member of a protected class as cannon fodder for the regime. Expect much more of this going forward.
As for the wacky claims about this being native land, a few things:
1) Which group of natives, exactly? It was a land mass of continually warring and mostly nomadic tribes. Which group could claim ownership?
2) I thought according to leftist/progressive orthodoxy, we are all immigrants? Technically the natives came from Asia thousands of years ago. So they aren’t in any way ‘native’ to this land. What about the second or third group of natives to arrive? Should they go back to where they came from? Who decides? How do you square all of this?
3) Just because a group of people merely existed in a certain geographic area does not automatically make that a nation. There was no concept of country at all during this time
I never suggested all or even most deaths were crimes, but there were crimes committed and these come from first hand accounts of relatives of the dead. I have not heard that residential school survivors have agree the school records were accurate, their accounts disputeQuote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
that.
The folks that have motive to cover up crimes are the perpetrators of those crimes.
I have no doubt that some children were beaten to death, others the victims of sexual abuse were murdered to cover up the offences and I believe that children died from neglect as they did not get medical attention.
Smallpox was used to wipe out entire communities previously on purpose, so anything is probable. IMHO
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As for the wacky claims about this being native land, a few things:
1) Which group of natives, exactly? It was a land mass of continually warring and mostly nomadic tribes. Which group could claim ownership?
(r) Well please refer to the already posted information https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/...-eng.htm#part2
As you can see from the charts the various tribes had geographic area's they operated in and many were not nomadic. A village of 800 growing corn and maize. https://torontoist.com/2015/06/histo...-of-teiaiagon/
2) I thought according to leftist/progressive orthodoxy, we are all immigrants? Technically the natives came from Asia thousands of years ago. So they aren’t in any way ‘native’ to this land. What about the second or third group of natives to arrive? Should they go back to where they came from? Who decides? How do you square all of this?
(r) Real simple, when the Vikings arrived they were meet by Natives.
3) Just because a group of people merely existed in a certain geographic area does not automatically make that a nation. There was no concept of country at all during this time[/QUOTE]
(r) Its all here all you have to do is read it https://www.britannica.com/list/the-...is-confederacy
[QUOTE=Gilroy;1209765]Are you trying to tell us that children forced from the hands of their parents by RCMP officers, separated from siblings, deprived of their parents, forced to speak only English, some even later adopted out. That the aboriginal community should be THANKFUL.
The whole idea of taking these children was not to look after them but to "take the Indian out of them" somehow make them fit into colonial society or the white man's world.
Sorry but so far I have not hear ONE SINGLE STORY where a child subject to the residential prison system wanted to THANK THE AUTHORITIES.
Perhaps you can dig up some accounts of this happening and post them for me?
I'd suggest reading William Gairdener "Balancing The Biased Genocide Story About Residential Schools" It's an interesting article about Inuvik Dene Chief Cece Hodgins McCauley she became the first female chief of one of the 23 bands in the Northwest Territories. The recipient of a 2017 Inspire Award for her achievements and contributions in politics reported that many former students were coming forward with their good and positive side of their residential school experiences. Elders had phoned her to express concern that only the negative side of the residential schools was being publicized. "They are planning to start a committee of elders to make public the positive side of residential schools. They all agree that Canadians must be made aware of the positive stories", she wrote.
Another is a Cree story teller Tomson Highway a playwright, novelist, classical pianist and Order of Canada recipient. Regarding the Truth and Reconciliation Commission he commented " You may have heard stories from 7000 witnesses in the process that were negative", he adds "but what you haven't heard are the 7000 reports that were positive stories. He goes on to say that there are very many successful people today with brilliant careers that wouldn't have happened without these schools.
Again I'll reiterate that I realize horrendous atrocities occurred and I hope some kind of justice will be served but instead of all the negative stories perhaps some light can be reflected on some of the positive stories.
If the descendent is to be held accountable for the actions how far back in time can we go to punish people. Maybe the ones that nailed someone to a cross can be found.
Oh. They must have become lawyers "living of the land"Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
And not going through the schools
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(r) Its all here all you have to do is read it https://www.britannica.com/list/the-...is-confederacy[/QUOTE]Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
A thought came to mind about the notion of "native land." You become a native of a place simply by being born there, so the word "native" doesn't really purpose the circumstance which the singer appears to want to get at. Perhaps more to the point of the intent would be better served by changing the lyrics to: " Our home on indigenous land." This would establish the idea of the first peoples to settle and have ownership of this continent prior to colonization by Europeans. Before that colonization there were numerous tribes of indigenous people each with their own tribal region, I have a map of North America that was drawn up to detail the various tribal regions. It runs from the High Artic through to the bottom of the isthmus that joins up with South America.
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