Second chance Draw for Moose

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Originally Posted by Matt86

This draw is very easy to understand, its is all in the regs quite clear
1st round all points gone
2nd round 1st choice points gone
2nd round 2nd and 3rd choice are random and you don't loose your points.
We drew our bull tags and 3 calf tags for our group of 4. All calf tags were in the random no point draw

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Yes very easy to understand that is why it takes from pages 56 to 73 to try and explain the process.

I Just explained how the point system works towards tags in 25 words I think
All them pages are hunt codes, previous tag points required for the year before, the season of each wmu, tag transfer, party hunting few advertisements.
This is the problem with how you are making it sound, a new hunter will read how you say its so complicated and there is 20 plus pages on how to apply, but you are so completely wrong it isnt funny,
So don't cry and scare away new moose hunters cause you cant understand something,

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Originally Posted by Matt86

I Just explained how the point system works towards tags in 25 words I think
All them pages are hunt codes, previous tag points required for the year before, the season of each wmu, tag transfer, party hunting few advertisements.
This is the problem with how you are making it sound, a new hunter will read how you say its so complicated and there is 20 plus pages on how to apply, but you are so completely wrong it isnt funny,
So don't cry and scare away new moose hunters cause you cant understand something,

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I think I can understand a "new hunter" will have zero points and probably will not read much more of the other pages.

Why not? I don't get your point if it is cause you think zero points wont get you a tag
I've drew 3 tags with zero points in the last 3 out of 4 years so why wouldn't someone with zero points be interested in applying for moose in Ontario and understanding it to get a tag?
and the year I didn't draw with zero I used my points

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Originally Posted by Matt86

Why not? I don't get your point if it is cause you think zero points wont get you a tag
I've drew 3 tags with zero points in the last 3 out of 4 years so why wouldn't someone with zero points be interested in applying for moose in Ontario and understanding it to get a tag?
and the year I didn't draw with zero I used my points

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I think you just provided me with another example of how convoluted the system is now.

Pretty easy you apply where there is tags you get them.
Think you may need help from someone explaining the system instead of bashing it.

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Originally Posted by Matt86

Think you may need help from someone explaining the system instead of bashing it.

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Lets remember debate is good just don't let it get to heated or personal.
No system will be acceptable to every hunter as everyone has their own reason to hunt.
There is a reason Idioms such as :You can't have your cake and eat it (too) or If Mohammed won't come to the mountain, the mountain must come to Mohammed exist
Meaning: If something cannot or will not happen the easy way, then sometimes it must be done the hard way.
So you want to hunt moose apply where no one wants to go. You want to hunt a specific place than line up with every other hunter who wants to do the same and wait your turn.

X 2 me also 4 years and 3 time tag with 0 point
just have to study the sistem....

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Originally Posted by matt86

why not? I don't get your point if it is cause you think zero points wont get you a tag
i've drew 3 tags with zero points in the last 3 out of 4 years so why wouldn't someone with zero points be interested in applying for moose in ontario and understanding it to get a tag?
And the year i didn't draw with zero i used my points

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Good comment ....

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Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers

lets remember debate is good just don't let it get to heated or personal.
No system will be acceptable to every hunter as everyone has their own reason to hunt.
There is a reason idioms such as :you can't have your cake and eat it (too) or if mohammed won't come to the mountain, the mountain must come to mohammed exist
meaning: If something cannot or will not happen the easy way, then sometimes it must be done the hard way.
So you want to hunt moose apply where no one wants to go. You want to hunt a specific place than line up with every other hunter who wants to do the same and wait your turn.

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Procedural matters can take a bit of time and study to understand. It’s no different with the moose draw. It was no different in the early 1980’ when the original moose draw came out as some hunters complained that it was too complicated. Some people must be taught, while others learn by doing. Learning new things can be challenging, especially for seniors who are experiencing memory issues. However for most younger folks, if something really interests you (e.g. moose hunting) then you take the time to figure it out.

IMO, folks who give up an activity and claim that it’s too complicated are quitting for other reasons as well.