Hunter reporting penalties increase

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

There were "several new questions" I guess I would call it investigative creep. I am sure a few hunters answers might not jive with a tag validated a CO might come across, but it could be a completely

innocent mistake. How exactly does the time and date you dropped a deer have any connection to a mandatory harvest questioner .

If this continues in a few years we will have to report on a whole bunch of questions.

If fully 8% of hunters 14,888 are not happy after 3 or 4 years of continual pushing the issue, maybe the MINISTRY and pen pushers should sort their chit out.

That way the OFAH will not have to intervene on behalf of hunters who just want some common sense injected into the system.

Near everybody I talk to laugh about the simple question HOW MANY DEER DID YOU SEE, so many different answers available to this.

How many I saw with my own eyes . How many did I see on my trail cameras . How many can I say I saw in person or on a camera that I can individually identify. The last one might be the best.

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Can't phantom the audacity of a mere 8% to force an issue that 92% clearly have no problem with. Think its time for a reality check and get with the program.

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

One thing kind of cool as an incentive is the chance to win an ATV just for doing the survey.

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Another nice incentive would be if they shared all survey questions aggregated statistics data including animals seen (currently they only share active hunters)

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Originally Posted by newbiehunter

Another nice incentive would be if they shared all survey questions aggregated statistics data including animals seen (currently they only share active hunters)

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It only takes a few minutes to fill out so I don`t see a problem. I would however like to see a summary spreadsheet of all the data they collect for each WMU, and to know what they do with all this information.

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Originally Posted by grumpygeezer

I would however like to see a summary spreadsheet of all the data they collect for each WMU, and to know what they do with all this information.

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When I worked for the MNR, I recall seeing spreadsheets with all of the information summarized from the surveys… so they have it. Unfortunately, the only data available (Ontario.ca/data) to hunters is a breakdown by year, unit, number of hunters, and harvest by sex.

IMO, it would be worthwhile pursuing the complete data set by contacting the OFAH, your MLA and the Minister of Natural Resources.

On another note, since the MNR doesn’t undertake field surveys to determine deer populations, they rely on information from hunters to guesstimate herd numbers.

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FFF, just for fun, I read that you believe the hunting fringe 8% should toe the government line to keep the 92% happy.
By this logic, the fringe capital letter groups should also toe the line and not openly parade there choices as well.
It works all ways, people make choices and if others are not hurt by them do not force your opinion on them.
John

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Originally Posted by johnjyb

FFF, just for fun, I read that you believe the hunting fringe 8% should toe the government line to keep the 92% happy.
By this logic, the fringe capital letter groups should also toe the line and not openly parade there choices as well.
It works all ways, people make choices and if others are not hurt by them do not force your opinion on them.
John

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There is a difference between expressing your choices which is great and not adhering to public policy. We live in a society where majority rules and once policy is made its your duty to conform.
Now you may be on to something johnjyb so if those 8% feel their life choices somehow limit their ability to file a report I fully encourage them band together and fight for change all the while accepting the consequences of those actions.