You need to make a hunting APP and then they would be interested.:moose:Quote:
Originally Posted by sawbill
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You need to make a hunting APP and then they would be interested.:moose:Quote:
Originally Posted by sawbill
Our new ballparks here are empty all summer. The soccer field has little kids only--no teens are interested in playing. We can't get young'uns out curling in the winter months. Free skating during the Christmas holidays at our arena and all you see are aged 40 and 50 and over taking advantage.
You tell me where the teens are then--other than hanging out at the malls or just plain 'hanging out'.
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Originally Posted by blasted_saber
If they can afford cell phones, ipods, ipads, xboxes and who knows how much for the games then they can afford to hunt! they are just too lazy too!
I have said for along time if your were to call a hunting meeting in most areas, out of a hundred hunters you would be lucky to get 5 guys under the age of thirty-five, and as has been noted, they probably be more interested in the electronic part of the hunt rather than leaving all that crap at home and just go and enjoy the time in the bush.
I posted a link earlier in 2013 or late 2012 that detailed the number of hunters in Canada is the highest its ever been (2.5M rings a bell), and a huge chunk of those hunters are 30 and younger.
There's no shortage of young hunters. Likely, as Welsh pointed out, they just have no interest in hanging with camps that will harrass them, treat them with disdain or as the camp b!+ch. Or, they have educations and careers that are simply more important in their youth.
As for planning one's vacation better or skipping school... well I guess if you're not paying for your education or you're taking a complete joke program you can skip a week or two. I know for me that was never an option. Neither my profs nor my project mates would have been so blase about it. The only time I missed post secondary was for important family deaths.
You also ignored the other component of vacations... my wife supports my hunting. To a point. She's not looking to sit on her duff wasting a week of her holidays to keep our house/family in order while I'm off relaxing.
As a young hunter in my 20's I feel I should put my input on this. I have never been apart of a moose/deer camp, and its not that I don't want to be, its because I wouldn't feel comfortable going up to camp with a bunch of old guys I didn't know for a week. It has nothing to do with technology or being lazy or money or time, I would just rather be in a camp with people my own age.
Dilemma: People my age don't have a camp nor equipment nor money nor time.
Then you haven't found the right camp. We have tons of fun and harness the energy of youth - by this I don't mean make them camp .Quote:
Originally Posted by x_xeon_x
Hunting 60+ years ago was a necessity. It provided meat for the winter. It is obviously not a necessity on most areas of Ontario anymore times have changed.
I have been going to camp family camp where my grandfather was one of the first members. My brother and I are next 2 in line for memberships and within the last 4 years 2 guys have sold their shares back to the camp but none were offered back to myself or my brother to buy into. Really pisses me off as I would spend more weekends as a guest up there for work weekends and for the hunt spending the time and money to show I was commuted and the miserable old pricks don't care. Now they are talking of taking down the old camp and building new. Now I am an owner of a carpentry company with all my own tools vehicle trailers and everything and I now damn well I will be asked to go help build the new camp and then they will offer a camp membership at 3 times the cost of what it is right now. And the first thing I'm going to tell them is where to shove it. It pusses me off the most because it has been in the family for 3 generations and I wanted to be the next generation but now I would rather go buy a piece of land and build my own
I have to disagree with sawbill and Brampton Mike.
I am 23, so I guess that makes me one of the young guys. I am about an avid hunter as they come, but this is the first year I will really have any time or money that could be put towards any kind of hunting trip. Bottom line is, I am married, just wrapping up my electrical apprenticeship, I am the superintendent of a small apartment building and i am working extra side jobs to make ends meet. I take one week off in the summer with my wife, and to think about taking another week really stretches the budget and my responsibilities at home. I have been with my current employer for 3 years now and am starting to feel a little bit of job security.
Yes, I have a cell phone etc, but only because in today's world you have to have one. When I get away into the bush the first thing I do is shut it off and enjoy the peace and quiet.
Also, to say that taking a week off from any post secondary education is no problem is quite an insult to those who are actually in said post secondary programs. I don't know what it has been like in the past, but nowadays, you miss a week, you fail the semester, or are put so far back you have little chance of getting a decent grade.
Bottom line, the moose hunt itself is a SIGNIFICANT expense, that just cant be justified by most of today's young people who are struggling to get by. When you add on extra time and work commitments it just isn't worth it.
Now, come back to me when I'm a bit older, have a bit more income and a little more free time and I would love to join.
I didn't disagree with Sawbill, because as I mentioned I think its just one of the underlying issues. It's not the only issue, it's may be the smallest underlying issue, it's an underlying issue.
True, over all numbers may be up. So to is our population. I wonder what the per capita number of hunters is these days. Someone earlier mentioned something about youth not understanding the outdoors. If you don't connect it makes spending a week/two harder, ergo the desire to commit to a two weeks in October when its April……….
… Its one thing to rent a cottage for a weekend fishing with your school/college buddies, pound back a case or 4 and quite another to spend a week/two moose hunting.
There have been dozens of threads about todays "youth" and some things that plague them…Doesn't mean every single one of them, its a broad brush stroke. Most have agreed with those underlying themes. Do those things magically disappear just because the topic is hunting?
One of the biggest draws to hunting is the camaraderie.
Its a proven, statistical, hard fact society and none more so then youth today are "losing" socialization skills. Texting, Facebooking, forums are replacing letter writing, talking on the phone, the desire to sit around and do nothing more exciting than chatting by a lamps light.
One does not need to make time to stay connected with their best friends from College/Uni anymore, all you need to do is send a text or tweet 24/7 and speak in wonderful colourful words most not much longer than 3 or 4 letters.