My Friend

Dealing with a father and son team as hunting partners is difficult because blood is thicker than water.You cant win in these situations and I have been through a similar dilema but not so severe.I would talk with the father as he is a long time friend and tell him Nick is out.You may still want the father to hunt with you but I would take into consideration your sons view and how he feels.If you have a loose cannon in camp his behaviour (drug use etc) can bring dirsrepute on you and your camp,simply not worth it.IMHO.

No ! No !

There were a number of issues here. As you may guess I try to run as ethical a hunt camp as possible. I would rather see a dozen pictures of deer than see one animal gut shot. One of the guys in camp is a gunsmith, so sighting in is very important to us. Any rifle repairs can be done on site. We also have police there hunting so drugs become a problem. We also are pretty laid back so if you want top go out fine if you want to hang around the fire, thats good too.

So I talked with the father and explained the situation. I guess I lost a friend. As someone said here he ultimatly is responsible for the actions of his son and to teach him right.

It really is the best thing you could do considering everything that happened. When it comes to camp safety, being legal, and an ethical hunt, you can't risk having them again. It isn't easy to lose a friend. It's also tough when you mean well and you really want to help. Bottom line is that you can't save the world, and you can't help those who don't want it. If your friend is really your friend, he will ultimately understand your point of view and that you are right to turn them down.

Black wolf, You were put in a difficult situation, I think you made the right and only choice. To spoil all, the members of your hunt group's hunt , would not be right. If you have known your friend for twenty years , he also knows you well. He should not be surprised by your decision good luck old243

You're thinking of inviting him? This moron is the reason why hunters have a bad name.

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Originally Posted by ryandir

You're thinking of inviting him? This moron is the reason why hunters have a bad name.

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Well my friend... but definitly his son, and Bob Barker

In time BW, Im sure your friend will see you did what you had to do, you really didn't have any choice. He may even thank you some day.

You know if you had allowed them back, you would have, in a sense rewarded their behavior....this way you let them now you don't condone it. Maybe sitting out a hunt season will force them to reflect on why they forced you to make the decision.

I'd say invite the father and not the son. Reason is smoking around camp, smoking pot. Failure to help out and respect camp rules. If father feels slighted and doesn't go, problem solved, he is the boys son and therefore responsible for his correction and behavior. If your friend has a problem with this, then he is not your friend. I won’t even go into the shooting practices of this young man. Lastly disrespecting your wife with and the asthma issue is the reason why I would turf them, nothing else. Doing the right thing is hard, and I am sure the rest of the camp feels the same way.