20 ga semi vs. 12 ga semi shooting 2 3/4 shells?

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Originally Posted by terrym

The only thing I hunt with a 12g anymore are turkeys. If I was still into waterfowl I would of course use a 12.

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Ducks drop just the same shooting a 20. The main reason I use my 12s for ducks at all is because it's easier to find steel for them.

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Originally Posted by Bluebulldog

Ducks drop just the same shooting a 20. The main reason I use my 12s for ducks at all is because it's easier to find steel for them.

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I imagine if you were to shoot tungsten matrix a 20 would be even more effective, may need a second mortgage though:)

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Originally Posted by skeeter1

I imagine if you were to shoot tungsten matrix a 20 would be even more effective, may need a second mortgage though:)

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I have, actually. When they first came out I gave a box of them a go. Pattern density was GTG out to about 50Y. Lol, but I wanted to see if they went down in price per box....and it hasn't happened yet.....so steel it is.

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Originally Posted by Bluebulldog

The OP made no mention of waterfowling whatsoever. Did you read his post?

With all due respect, if you haven't met a woman who couldn't handle the recoil of. Properly fit 12 gauge, then you haven't shot with very many.

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I sure did read his post. Considering this is the waterfowl forum, and I know Dave is a dedicated waterfowler, I put two and two together.

I'm an avid trap, skeet and sporting clays shooter and am a dedicated waterfowl hunter. I've had the opportunity to shoot with many women on the range, and like I said, have yet to meet a woman who can not handle the recoil of a properly fit 12 gauge. You can easily drop 3-5K on a factory fitted gun. You're taking my post out of context when you talk about the overall preference on the skeet field, my post was largely geared towards hunting. You're talking close in shooting here.

Talk up your 20s all you want, they will never live up to the 12 when it comes to popularity in the duck blind and the wide variety of situations that they can cover. If a woman can handle the recoil of a 12, why limit her with a 20?

-Nick

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Originally Posted by Sprite

I sure did read his post. Considering this is the waterfowl forum, and I know Dave is a dedicated waterfowler, I put two and two together.

I'm an avid trap, skeet and sporting clays shooter and am a dedicated waterfowl hunter. I've had the opportunity to shoot with many women on the range, and like I said, have yet to meet a woman who can not handle the recoil of a properly fit 12 gauge. You can easily drop 3-5K on a factory fitted gun. You're taking my post out of context when you talk about the overall preference on the skeet field, my post was largely geared towards hunting. You're talking close in shooting here.

Talk up your 20s all you want, they will never live up to the 12 when it comes to popularity in the duck blind and the wide variety of situations that they can cover. If a woman can handle the recoil of a 12, why limit her with a 20?

-Nick

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And as I posted a page ago...I was wrong. I don't often look at the forum the thread is started in.

No argument as to the 12s suitability over the 20 for waterfowling. I don't discount the 20 as being a waste, as another poster so eloquently put it either. I actually go afield with my 20s more than my 12s, and anyone on here who has met me will attest, I'm not a small guy.

Guess it's a matter of perception. I don't look at the 20 as limiting anything.

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Originally Posted by mojo stick

i shoot trap as well , and I find it funny when guys bring there wives out and they have there 2500 to 3000 dollar custom fitted 20 gauge , they shoot one round and do well but than you talk them into shooting a nice semi , they shoot the 12 and before you know it the 20 is up for sale , if your going to use a gun for hunting 99 percent of women and even young adults can handle the 12 gauge don't wast your money on a 20 it will sit in the cabinet and never be used , unless your chasing bunnies and want a lighter gun in that case buy a 4 10 .

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You suggest a 410 in the same sentence that you say a 20 gauge is a waste of money?

Thanks for all of the info and opinions guys. All very valid. As usual a few good debates were sparked as well. :D

If my wife said to me....Dave I want to go hunting with you as much as possible and I want to shoot trap with you and I want a gun that is mine then I would do all the right things to find her a gun that she liked and fit her properly. That is not the case. She sat out for turkey a couple of times last year but never fired a shot. We were supposed to try dove hunting a couple of times but it never happened and I never got her into the duck blind.......But....if I do get her out more I am mainly looking for a gun that is not going to kick the crap out of her after the first couple of shots that is why it was mainly the difference in recoil between the 2 guns that I was looking for. CocoZoo and I few others answered that question.

And yes it it primarily a waterfowl gun I was looking for because that is what I hunt the most.

Dave

The whole process was a bit time consuming for us, and she went through three guns before settling on the third.

Woman are built way different than men (obviously lol). That includes longer necks, higher cheek bones, and those great things we all love that protrude out of their chests. So depending on their build, they'll manage to develop all sorts of bad techniques when mounting the gun to compensate for it. Like mounting a gun that is too long on their arm, not shoulder, climbing the stock to account for a low comb, canting the gun to keep the butt pad from pinching thier boob. Etc etc.

Because of my girlfriends size and shape, we settled on a cut down 12ga. O/U and had an adjustable comb and butt pad installed. For ducks she shot 1/8oz 2.75“ steel loads, and for skeet, I load her 1oz. @ 1150fps. Now that she can mount the gun properly and see down the rib, she's shooting fine with no pain.

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Hey Dave I have the rem 11 87 compact and if you and the wife would like to try it I am in Norwich Dutch

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Originally Posted by dutchhunter

Hey Dave I have the rem 11 87 compact and if you and the wife would like to try it I am in Norwich Dutch

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Thanks for the offer Dutch. I've got my eye on a Maxus. Just have to decide if I'm ready to commit to it or not.