short range how about a 12 guage with a rifled barrel and red dot scope
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short range how about a 12 guage with a rifled barrel and red dot scope
For short to medium range a .444 or .45-70 in a short barreled Marlin would do the trick on moose or bear.
My dad used to have a Remington model 7600 carbine in .30-06 that was surprisingly accurate. You could reach out a little further with the .30-06 as well.
Should budget permit, the following will be a great choice. Note, the product is not on gun shelves yet...perhaps later in the year (hopefully)...... http://www.czub.cz/en/catalog/364-ce...7_CARBINE.aspxQuote:
Originally Posted by jazboxer
The recommendation for something such as the Zastava (or a CZ) in a Mannlicher FS is also sound i.e. if you prefer such stock configuration. However, I've found that Zastava rifles need to be tweaked in order to optimize performance. The CZ product will deliver right out of the box....very rarely one gets a specimen that may need "adjustments."
In a less expensive rifle, the Ruger American in a compact version will serve well provided the shorter LOP suits you. Last year, I shot one in .30-06 and found that to be very accurate with off-the-shelf ammo. Fit and finish is quite acceptable given the price point. I'm aware of one in .308 that shoots factory loads under an inch @ 100yds. The actions are built to scale....EDIT: I may be wrong regarding the action...need to verify.
He asked for short to medium range thats why i suggested it. You dont need a scope for close range. See through mounts for close distance with the added bonus of a scope if anything wanders in that is out of his comfort zone. Just have to prsctice using both to get comfortable. Plus the pump action will allow quick follow up shot if needed. To be honest most of the guys i know that have them only use the scope as well. I like the versatility myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by blasted_saber
.375 H&H, hand load it up or down for any big game.
jazboxer,Quote:
Originally Posted by skypilot
Not sure how experienced you are or how much you weigh, but despite skypilot's suggestion (he actually knows a lot about this stuff) I would consult this table
http://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm
to get an idea of how much recoil you want to enjoy when you pull the trigger. I have a 338 Win Mag that I just love to shoot which has about the same recoil as a .375 H&H. That being said, none of my friends will shoot it after the first time they pulled the trigger.
It is generally accepted that the upper end of recoil for most shooters is about 20-21 ft/lbs which is the 30-06.
I would recommend against looking at any of the 30 cal magnums since they don't provide a lot of additional performance vs the recoil and powder you need to feed them. If you want big game out to 200 yds and beyond then yes the .375 H&H or a 338 Win Mag will deliver. Alternatively so will a 30-06 or a 308 Win with good shot placement and the proper choice of bullets.
I use a .3030. win carbine for short distances out to 200 yards for all big game, Through a dense bush this is probably the most common rifle. Out to 400 yards I use a 99 Savage in .308. Now I'm going to a 7mm Rem Mag for longer distances. Bigger is not always better. To me a short range rifle works better. You may also want to check out Kent Aitkins shop just outside Listowel. Very very knowledgeable man. Better with firearms than George or his crew at Shooters choice.
Remington 760 or 7600 in 308 or 30-06 with a 1 1/2 x 4 or 2 x 7 quality scopeQuote:
Originally Posted by jazboxer
What happened to your custom built .416 Taylor for those 1000 yard shots?Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackwolf
If you are looking for a short rifle that can provide tight groups, I would look closely at at the Browning Levers in 308.
They are very handy in the bush and the lever/bolt design of the action provides the accuracy.