Sounds like a good idea YD, but can't anyone just register themselves with CKC?Quote:
Originally Posted by yellow dog
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Sounds like a good idea YD, but can't anyone just register themselves with CKC?Quote:
Originally Posted by yellow dog
Fine, maybe, if your selling 'with papers'....but a majority of ads on Kijiji are people selling/finding homes for their personal pets or their offspring..not 'breeders'. It's a great tool to be able to pick up a dog for the kids to play with in the yard.Quote:
Originally Posted by yellow dog
I don't see how Kijiji is doing anything wrong with the way is now. The ad I linked to does more than should be required to tell people to be diligent.
Yes anyone can be a C.K.C member and become a breeder but you need to abide by C.K.C bylaws as a breeder. If you are not following this bylaw and breeder code of ethics you risk having your membership pulled. Also a fine can be issued and also in some cases you can be brought to court. I do not believe it is a great tool for someone to pick up a pup for the kids considering it's a cr*p shoot when you have no quarantees on any future health issues. Nothing worse than getting one of these puppies for the kids and the dog gets sick because of poor breeding practices( puppy mill). Also in many cases a lifetime of health issues and high vet bills .
Bang on YD. Like I've said before, people don't have a clue and will do more research when buying a toaster than they will with a possible new member of the family that is gong to be living with them for the next 8-15 years. Buy that pup for the kids to play in the backyard but good luck on it's temperament and good luck with the vet bills. Most will just give the dogs up, or get another one from some other back yard "greeder". Again, it's that nasty cycle.Quote:
Originally Posted by yellow dog
As for the CKC, they don't care if breeders do health checks (or at least this is my understanding) so what ethics are there to follow?
What I'm getting at here is just because a "breeder" is registered with the CKC and can get papers it doesn't mean squat as far as the quality of the dogs they produce.
Hey that's plagiarism from the "Breeders of America" FAQ page...."what to say if someone says they'll adopt a dog from the pound"....Quote:
Originally Posted by yellow dog
Poppycock !!! ..just a bunch of fear mongering by those that see a threat to their business.
Hmm eliminate puppy mills and the ability for them to advertise these poor unhealthy animals would mean far less dogs to be adopted from the pound.Poppycock I think not !!!
Well you better hit google Ole Yellar and start finding me some facts to support your 'opinion'...I want to know statistically how many sickly dogs are adopted from a pound and then compare that to pure breeds that have inbreed health concerns.Quote:
Originally Posted by yellow dog
Lots of 'smoke and mirrors' out there...
I had a puppy mill dog and an adopted dog from the pound. The puppy mill dog was definitely not a healthy dog, and my adopted (pure bred) rottie started having leg issues at the age of 5. I believe Sharon mentioned she wouldn't go the adoption route anymore as well due to the health problems her dogs had.
Just because a dog is pure bred doesn't mean it was well bred. There are plenty of BYB and puppy milled pure breds out there as well. A lot of them even come with papers.
One should ask if they can't afford $100 for adoption, how can afford the food and for the welfare of the dog (checkups, shots and flea medicine) on monthly and yearly basis.Quote:
Originally Posted by topher
There are quite a few articles out there stating that puppy mill dogs are a high risk. Really it only makes sense when you consider bad health being passed on, lack of socialization, abuse, just poor breeding etc.
Penn Vet study finds pet store puppies come with increased risk
http://www.upenn.edu/pennnews/curren...increased-risk
On Puppies, Pet Stores, and Behaviour Problems
http://www.companionanimalpsychology...behaviour.html
Pet Store Puppies From Puppy Mills Are More Lilkely To Become Aggressive
http://tobyproject.org/blog-entries/...ome-aggressive