I like the odd balls so I would go with the 264 win mag or the 2506 .the latter may be a little small for moose but with a good shot both will put them down Dutch
I like the odd balls so I would go with the 264 win mag or the 2506 .the latter may be a little small for moose but with a good shot both will put them down Dutch
30-06,308,270 and 30-30 if in thick brush and not shoot over 250 yards.
In southern ontario a .270 is more versatile because with light loads it can be used for small game. Small game has to be hunted with under .277 so the 270 pr 270wsm will do all
.300 short mag. very flat shooting. lethal to both animals at any range. I've had good success with hunting both deer and moose with them.. I use winchester ballistic silvertips.
With the utmost respect....if you are asking what calibre you should use, you shouldn't even be considering a shot at 4-500 yards.Quote:
Originally Posted by FISH-ON
A 4-500+ yard shot even for a very experienced shooter is one hell of a shot. The OP sounds like a new big game hunter and I am sure he does not yet realize the difficulty in a shot like that, hopefully this thread provides him with some good info.
Agree with you Brent. To the OP - if you are going with this - you should be looking at the fastest flattest shooting cartridge - with at least a 160 grain hunting bullet. Speed will lessen the effect of wind on your shot. Flat will lessen the need for accurate ranging - but at those ranges - you will need a range finder to get into the ball park with your holdover. Before you even think about a 500 yard shot, have a look at the trajectory and windage tables for those...and if they aren't available for a particular caliber at that range - well there's a reason for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by brent
FYI - most of the common calibers you'll be dealing with just under 2' of drop at 400 and just under 4' at 500. You can cut that by 1/3 by going to the heavy magnums. When you get into measuring drop in feet instead of inches - that's not something for beginners.
http://www.hornady.com/assets/files/...Ballistics.pdf
I would agree with you Skeeter on the 400 to 500 yards. That being said a lot of folks tend to think their quarry is a lot farther away than it actually is. I have seen this with several people over the years.I think a lot of these supposed 4-500 yard shots are likely 2-250 in reality.There are numerous choices that will do the job. 270 280 300 308 30-06.These are some of the more common or better known and easy to get ammo for all of them.As others have mentioned there are choices both smaller and larger. All that really matters is get what you are comfortable and confident with and make sure you zero it in as close as possible,ideally minimum of 4 inch groups or smaller even better at 100 yards. Over the years numerous people make the mistake of not shooting their guns from year to year or being happy hitting a large pie plate or similar target. To me that is not good enough or proper,but each to their own. Remember if your gun is off say 4 inches at 100 yards it will be off 12 inches at 300 and 20 inches at 500. Enough said,good luck and happy hunting.
If you are thinking of shooting at any range, you need to shoot a lot better than 4" at 100 yards. You better be a sub MOA shooter atleast if your thinking 500 yards at game.
kdp89 obviously missed the point i was trying to make!!!!! And i will respectfully disagree with him on the 4 inch group not being acceptable at any range. A 4 inch group at a 100 yards will harvest any and all deer and moose any one of us will ever shoot at at that 100 yard range. I simply stated 4 inches as a rough minimum goal to try to achieve.A lot of people would be quite happy to do that consistently at a 100 yards. I suspect i will get more flack for my thoughts on this but factor in age, old guns,open sights,lack of experience and i think a lot of people would agree a 4 inch group average would not be that far off in most hunting gangs or camps.If you know your gun and your own capabilities and can feel confident on a 50 yd, 100 yd ,250 yd or whatever the yardage is then you either make the shot or pass on it. Stay within your realms and do not tempt yourself in to "hail marys". I have heard different folks tell me they can shoot deer at 100 yd with buck shot, 150 yd with slugs, and 2-250 yd with muzzle loaders. While all of this might happen occasionally, I personally doubt it happens with any regularity and in most cases should not even be tried, imo. Now back to kdp89,if you want to talk sub m.o.a. I shoot dimes with my 17 rem. at 100 yd and have shot numerous coyotes out to 400 yd and as i said in my earlier post 4 in off at 100 yd becomes 16 in at 400 yd. Bottom line, the point i was trying to make was know your gun your capabilities,zero to the best of your ability and stay within those parameters. And to reiterate the point fyi most shots are actually closer than most people think, imo.