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sure Saturday morning I see them drop off on private property and shoot at 8 am. Please spare me the explanation. Is the club in the heart of Dundas and allow shooting everyday of the week. I have had some many bow hunters hear gun shots during the week in Dundas valley.Quote:
Originally Posted by Huntnfish
I can absolutely see it being a "warning" shot AKA "get off my reserve" shot. I'm sure everyone has heard stories of people being chased or physically beaten off a reserve or even know someone who has.
Look at the .270wby ballistics, it drops about a foot at 350 yards, so the guy was aiming directly at his head to have hit him in the back.
We all know what deer look like across a field, and we all know what hunters look like from across a field. I feel terrible for the victims family as they're not going to see any justice for this murder.
I couldn't agree more. To have shot a man in center mass from 350 yards means HE WAS AIMING AT THE MAN.Quote:
Originally Posted by x_xeon_x
No explanation, no excuses, no justification. There's not any hunter I know that would think about taking that shot.
MURDER, PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
I actually grew up in Caledonia in the 70's and 80's and had several run-ins with the inhabitants of the Res.
Most of the 'Indians' I knew were great people. I certainly wouldn't paint them all with the same brush.
Saying he intentionally shot at him is ridiculous. He thought he was shooting at a deer. He committed the cardinal sin - did not fully identify his target before shooting. After shooting he went out to look for a deer and found he had killed this person. Then he called the police to report it. If he was intentionally shooting him he would have hopped in his car and left.
well with a 240 bee I am sure he had a good scope and a 350 yards a blind man with a good scope could tell the dif between a deer and a man .D
The victim was in the treeline, in camo. It's entirely plausible that Jonathan didn't see him clearly & shot at the movement.
More plausible than suggesting he volunteered for 4 years in jail to say "get off my rez."
So many different versions of the story but the version I heard and read was he was not hunting on a property he had permission on. He saw a deer or what looked like a deer and got out of his car took out his 270 weatherby magnum rifle and shot across a road at hit someone at 350 yards in the back. Now that is one hell of a shot or that bow hunter was just in the wrong place. But if these are these facts then the book should be throw at him. Now if I am wrong please correct me. That seems to be poaching and careless and someone lost there life for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by welsh
Sunday now Saturday make up your mind, what's a Burlington boy telling me what happens in my town, buddy I drive at all different times as I am a shift worker please spare me your stories about lots of people hunting around here, i have yet to see one person with a bow or gun walking around, sure it happens but your chicken little approach is B.S and if you live hear I hear the gun club all the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by pbonura
The Hamilton Spectator reported soon after the incident that he DID have permision to hunt on that reservation property.
Even if the victim was poaching (which he was not) how would Jonathan know at 350 yards if the person in camo was a native or not.
All you people with "I heard this, or I heard that" should get on line and read the original stories as posted in the Specator.
Peter Kosid, the victim, had permission to hunt on the property. Stan Jonathan did not.