Another Remington recall

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Originally Posted by urbansherpa

I think the only reason that there are millions of 870 happy owners is because Remington has produced over 10,000,000 of them.
I'd guess there are at least 5 million UNhappy owners!

You think that after building over ten million of them that Remington would have maybe PERFECTED it! At least worked the bugs out ?!?!

I'll keep my B-guns, thank you.

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They did perfect it. Then somewhere along the line (late 90s? Early 2000s?) they started going with cheap parts/manufacturing process and poor quality control.

My 40~ year old wingmaster is a tank. Its a flawlessly built firearm which I have absolute confidence in. From the duck blind to the grouse woods to the thick swamps for deer, its gets used everywhere.

I like Ithaca 37,Ithaca the best!

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Originally Posted by blasted_saber

My 40~ year old wingmaster is a tank. Its a flawlessly built firearm which I have absolute confidence in. From the duck blind to the grouse woods to the thick swamps for deer, its gets used everywhere.

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Pretty sure you can still buy Wingmasters although I cant say if the quality of them has eroded as well. Your 40 year old 870 is about as good as a pump was ever made which is what makes the cr@p made now seem like a shame.

I have a 37 featherlight that was my Grandfathers and I agree with you.

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Originally Posted by blasted_saber

They did perfect it. Then somewhere along the line (late 90s? Early 2000s?) they started going with cheap parts/manufacturing process and poor quality control.

My 40~ year old wingmaster is a tank. Its a flawlessly built firearm which I have absolute confidence in. From the duck blind to the grouse woods to the thick swamps for deer, its gets used everywhere.

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Late 90s.

I know the 870 I bought in 97 was the beginning period of the downhill slide.

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Originally Posted by Bluebulldog

Late 90s.

I know the 870 I bought in 97 was the beginning period of the downhill slide.

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Is it a Wingmaster or Express?

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Originally Posted by terrym

Is it a Wingmaster or Express?

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I was an Express.

I dumped that POS a very long time ago.

I however have nothing bad to say about my Mossberg 500.....

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Originally Posted by wolf58

I like Ithaca 37,Ithaca the best!

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I used to own a Fox (double) , Savage and Remington 1100 for a number of decades . All of them worked very well but I traded them off one by one . --- During the last ~40 years my Ithaca 37 Deerslayer has been doing the chores . --- YES , that cylinder-bored barrel does everything I ask of it . At ~35 yards the pattern is still tight enough for decoyed ducks or anything-else I chose to use it on . As a bonus : It groups slugs 3-4'' AT 80 YARDS . --- Yeah , I can hear some of you scoffing ! --- Try a cylinder- or a skeet-bore for ducks some day , you might be surprised . --- Just don't stretch the range too much . --- Incidently : An average 12 gauge measures ~0.725-0.730'' . My cylinder-bore mikes at 0.695'' . --- Furthermore , the quality surpasses the Remington by far .

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Originally Posted by Brampton Mike

LMAO..cheap 870's i don't think so...I currently own six 870 expresses and have NEVER had a problem with any of them and they all get used in the field...they are not 'safe queens'...I stand by my 870's and have no problem recommending them to anyone!

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I've only got one, I bought it new in '87. No issues except for some worn out parts I changed a few years ago. I changed the ejector spring because it was getting thin as well as the feed rails and the slide assembly. Both had worn out and were giving me feed issues. Problem solved after that. For a gun that had never jammed or failed to feed in 25 years to give me a half dozen or so in a month indicated a problem. I have in the neighbourhood of 20-25 000 rounds through it over the years, and have dragged it through conditions while casing ducks and geese that would make many gun owners cringe. That thing goes bang, pump, bang, pump, bang every time.

i can't speak to the Express models sold in the last give years or so, but the older ones are good solid guns.