Open Carry in the Bush

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Originally Posted by mox72

Are those in uniform even required to have a PAL/POL?

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They do not require a licence to carry a gun while working. They can not have guns outside of work, if they dont have a licence.
Hunting with a handgun limits your range, similar to using a bow, instead of a rifle. It adds a new dimension to the sport.
Restricting legal gun ownership has no effect on the illegal gun owners. Thats why gun violence didnt change, even though we had our guns registered. Only law biding citizens abide by the law.

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Originally Posted by Marker

Agreed, the only people who should have hand guns are those in uniform. The reason being is that those individuals go through extensive testing and training, and are also monitored constantly by their peers. Whereas Joe Q Public has no effective monitoring, if you doubt the effect of this just take a walk through any crown land in WMU 87 on a long weekend. On one occasion I counted over 100 rounds going off and heard rounds zip past me, later I found empty 223 boxes. Those individuals showed an absolute lack of self discipline which would only be compounded with the addition of hand guns to the mix.

As a former resident of the UK I can say that we in Canada have the best hunting opportunities I have seen, the hunting in Europe is a pay-per-use system only for the rich. We as hunters must maintain a level of respect and defence against that type of system (ie anti hunters). As part of that, being able to compromise and quietly go about our business will help ensure the longevity of the sport.

Just my 2 cents.

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So I see you're from the UK.How's the gun control there workin for ya?That's where we are headed here with attitudes like yours.Wise up.

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Originally Posted by Hunter John

Jeebus murphy . A gun is a gun is a gun. One is no more dangerous than the other be it a short stubby one or a long skinny one. As far as I am concerned once you pass all the required courses and the background checks it should not matter what type of gun you own or use. To hear other gun owners say we should or should not be allowed to own and use specefic types is stomach turning to say the least. You are either trusted to own and use firearms or you are not.

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I agree.

Its ludicrous that I cant legally carry a handgun because a criminal in Toronto also carries a handgun (illegally). Like how does that even make sense? His handgun most likely came from across the border anyways.

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Originally Posted by Marker

Agreed, the only people who should have hand guns are those in uniform. The reason being is that those individuals go through extensive testing and training, and are also monitored constantly by their peers. Whereas Joe Q Public has no effective monitoring, if you doubt the effect of this just take a walk through any crown land in WMU 87 on a long weekend. On one occasion I counted over 100 rounds going off and heard rounds zip past me, later I found empty 223 boxes. Those individuals showed an absolute lack of self discipline which would only be compounded with the addition of hand guns to the mix.

As a former resident of the UK I can say that we in Canada have the best hunting opportunities I have seen, the hunting in Europe is a pay-per-use system only for the rich. We as hunters must maintain a level of respect and defence against that type of system (ie anti hunters). As part of that, being able to compromise and quietly go about our business will help ensure the longevity of the sport.

Just my 2 cents.

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Oh the horror! 100 rounds!

Rounds zipping by you is absolutely horrible, but 100 rounds is nothing for a range day. I also fail to see how adding handguns to the mix would make it more dangerous. My Ruger 10/22 can have a 110 round magazine. How is a revolver holding 8 rounds of .22lr any more dangerous then a semi auto rifle with 110 rounds off .22 in the magazine?

Well....I guess I am looking to get bashed here but.................... I don't want anyone in the bushes I hunt carrying handguns.... If you seen some of the guys/gangs that hunt in my area you will understand.

Hand guns for the trapper guys, yes....................general public with our current course requirements.....no thanks...just too many irresponsible guys out there and my fear has nothing to do with gang bangers...

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Originally Posted by fratri

Well....I guess I am looking to get bashed here but.................... I don't want anyone in the bushes I hunt carrying handguns.... If you seen some of the guys/gangs that hunt in my area you will understand.

Hand guns for the trapper guys, yes....................general public with our current course requirements.....no thanks...just too many irresponsible guys out there and my fear has nothing to do with gang bangers...

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Current course requirements for average joe dont include handguns. Hence the restricted course.

Again ~ A gun is a gun is a gun. One is not more dangerous then the other.

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Originally Posted by Iggy

Hey HA

No thanks, I'm against it, for a few reasons, first of all, I don't like handguns, if you need protection in the Ontario bush, carry a rifle or a shotgun. Truthfully there is very little you need to worry about in Ontario and Quebec. I've watched may times when bear baiters went to their barrels with only a stick or an axe.
Handguns end up in the wrong peoples hands and are used by gangbangers as some sort of status symbol and the more there are around, the more they get.
We have a huge issue right now in Ottawa with handguns and it would be worse if more people had them.

This is just my opinion, but IMHO, hunters don't need anything to do with handguns

Ig

By the way, they make a very short 30.30 rifle called a Trapper model and it is exactly for that, trappers

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There are tons of stuff you can't do with a long gun. While in the bush, our on your own property... just to name a few.
Carry chicken feed
Carry deer feed
Shovel snow
Split fire wood
Cut wood..
Pretty much anything that requires allot of movement... and a sling won't work... I tried shoveling snow with my rifle on a sling... it would not work.. we have a massive coyote problem here and every day in near the chickens our deer bait they are near me... the other night they were circling me... but well.. having an un encased shotgun at dark is illegal... (not on my property)... a 22 handgun would of made me feel a lot more comfy than my buck 110 knife did..
I had coyote prints in my foot prints on my second trip back in the bush that night.. (one for feed one for the salt)..
And again a shotgun would not of helped.. as I would not of been able to carry out with the 80lb bag of corn...

[QUOTE=Gilroy;854334]Very true,we went 20 years using .38 Smith and Wesson,s and our annual qualification was 6 practise shots at 10 yards and six for the qualifier.

Your just a puppy, we carried Colt Police Positive.:santa:

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Originally Posted by blasted_saber

Again ~ A gun is a gun is a gun. One is not more dangerous then the other.

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Disagree.. a rifle is probably more dangerous than a handgun... (range, velocity etc) AFAIK a 22lr from a rifle had allot more velocity than a 22 from a handgun... therefore I can deduct that a projectile fired from a longer barrel (to a point) has more impact energy than from a pistol...