My point is that the press release isn't the only thing that the OFAH is doing. You're right that the press release doesn't hammer that point home, but probably only because they've already hammered it home directly to the mnr and in most of the media interviews that I heard last year after the massive tag cuts. Do they really need to re-hash every point in every press release?Quote:
Originally Posted by Waftrudnir
I don't care what others have to say about this , but I believe we should at least eliminate, the non resident moose hunt.
I know its a money thing for outfitters but if we, as residents can't get a license , it does not make sense that only the rich can.
This is just my opinion.
And one with which I agree. Residents/tax payers first (well... first in line after the FN). Especially since many of the lodge owners themselves aren't residents or Canadian citizens.Quote:
Originally Posted by JUDGE
One of the bullwark principles of hunting is conservation. Quite clearly,Moose populations are dropping across the board. We can't insist that Natural Resources is wrong,citing only anecdotal observations from some hunters in various areas,to the contrary. Our ONLY choice is to take biological scientific evidence at face value,BUT,we must ensure that there's no political interference in the process. Blindly rubber-stamping bureaucratic decisions has proven that we should never trust politicians. That's where organizations like OFAH come into play using sensible,non-partisan observation. To that end,their reputation is unrivalled and above reproach. If there was ever a time for effective lobbying,this is it. We all know that there's some extremely significant issues with this matter and a "one-size-fits-all" solution isn't an option. Likwise,finger-pointing and "would,shoulda,coulda" rhetoric is equally unhelpful. As hunters,we need to be the driving force behind all actions taken or risk appearing two-faced and self-serving feeding the sure-as-God-made-little-green-apples animal rights and anti-hunting front that's sure to be all over this thing. It'll be like swimming in quicksand if we're not careful.
Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
So, we should not make any changes right now to reduce the moose that are taken so that they can take another 10 years to determine with the help of biologists what may be a better way to solve this problem?
Stop killing moose that can have babies and stop killing their babies.
If I have a farm and I want to increase numbers I don't kill off 50% of the babies and 5% of the adult females, I kill only some of the males and use the rest to breed the adult females and the young adult females as they come into maturity. I also selectively kill the adult males, not just every one I see.
I would much rather we stop shooting moose period because if we take so long that the government has a chance to talk about this again there will not be enough moose to recover.
Do I understand correctly that it's your position the Moose hunt should be shut down entirely? How do we maintain any sense of balance with that approach? That's like throwing the baby out with the bath water. Remember,once something like this is lost,it's gone forever. Do we really want to go there?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
Western Ontario, shut the moose season down in wmu 7b, 8 and have resident only for wmu #5. Make decisions wmu specific.
As long as a hunter has a calf tag, and he see's one, he will shoot it. Even if deep down he knows he shouldn't take the calf.
We would run the risk of skewing the sex ratio so much that overall breeding would decline. The only way to avoid this would be to drastically reduce hunting opportunities. Conservation trumps hunting opportunities, but there are options that preserve more hunting opportunities and allow moose populations to increase.
Absolutely!Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
X4..Im in..Stop the moose hunt for 3 or 4 years..every year guys get on here and complain about seeing no moose..Now they are complaing about the season being shortened..and the rant goes on..
Yes I have moose hunted for 28 years..enjoyed every minute of it..but I am like some of the other guys..not seeing any..its a real bummer.. When I have gone from seeing 22 moose in a single season..to going out 22 times and only seeing one....yes, something has to be done..
Watch the same thing will happen to the deer...Like I told one guy in our deer group in the controlled hunt..how many do we need...Leave some for your kids to hunt..His reply was " they give me tags, so Im going to fill them"..
All in all..no body will like what is going to happen..so lets go kill them all..Then we can sit around the back yard and pretend..