Trophy Hunting

I will give you that. He was a hunter and he did create I believe 5 new parks In his role as Us president.

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Originally Posted by rfb

I will give you that. He was a hunter and he did create I believe 5 new parks In his role as Us president.

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He did a little more than that. This is a quote from the NPS website.

"After he became President in 1901, Roosevelt used his authority to protect wildlife and public lands by creating the U.S. Forest Service and establishing 51 Federal Bird Reservations, 4 National Game Preserves, 150 National Forests, 5 National Parks, and enabling the 1906 American Antiquities Act which he used to proclaim 18 National Monuments. During his presidency,Theodore Roosevelt protected approximately 230,000,000 acres of public land."

I read that article as well. And good on him for doing that. But i think it's a bit of a stretch to extrapolate that to hunters plural helped create the national parks system.

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Originally Posted by rfb

I read that article as well. And good on him for doing that. But i think it's a bit of a stretch to extrapolate that to hunters plural helped create the national parks system.

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Tough to say. Could be he got all the credit.

There's an article I read on roosevelt and the National parks service that states that he had originally gone out west to.the badlands to hunt but had become alarmed by the devastion he saw there. His creating the parks was a reaction to the environmental destruction he saw including the virtual destruction of big game species. Seems he was kind of disgusted by what unregulated hunting had done.

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Originally Posted by rfb

There's an article I read on roosevelt and the National parks service that states that he had originally gone out west to.the badlands to hunt but had become alarmed by the devastion he saw there. His creating the parks was a reaction to the environmental destruction he saw including the virtual destruction of big game species. Seems he was kind of disgusted by what unregulated hunting had done.

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Yeah, that was one of the big motivations. The article you are referring to is from the same article I previously quoted.

True. Anyways I've said all I have to on the subject. I am still against trophy hunting and am still disgusted by the girl killing the giraffe.

But i respect your right to disagree with what I have to say. Good luck in the great outdoors

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Originally Posted by rfb

There's an article I read on roosevelt and the National parks service that states that he had originally gone out west to.the badlands to hunt but had become alarmed by the devastion he saw there. His creating the parks was a reaction to the environmental destruction he saw including the virtual destruction of big game species. Seems he was kind of disgusted by what unregulated hunting had done.

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There you have answered many of the statements that have been made about hunting legally.

The "trophy hunting "in Africa " is definitely not unregulated , it also is a way of bringing in much needed dollars to the economy through licence and trophy fees, and the meat is not wasted , as even the Giraffe is very edible and is donated to the neighboring villages that get little to no meat most of their lives.

A friend has been going there to hunt for several years and confirms that as soon as the word gets around that meat is available , they come in hordes and take everything from that animal that they possibly can, even the blood and some of the intestines .

If you hunt at all, Do Not Judge or Condemn Others that hunt legally ,all you are doing is exhibiting a " holier than thou attitude " by your statements.

Thanks for your concern, but as an adult, I'll come to my own conclusions and state them. If that makes me holier than though so be it.

That's one thing i hate about the hunting fraternity, the whole circle the wagons approach when it comes to criticizing our sport. Just because I hunt, doesn't mean I have to accept practices I disagree with.

I stand by my contention that trophy hunting should be relegated to the past.

The issue of trophy hunting in Africa is complex. I haven't seen a definitive study that says it aids conservation. And as I've stated before, for whatever reasons, a few African nations have banned it recently in a move to protect wildlife.

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Originally Posted by rfb

Thanks for your concern, but as an adult, I'll come to my own conclusions and state them. If that makes me holier than though so be it.

That's one thing i hate about the hunting fraternity, the whole circle the wagons approach when it comes to criticizing our sport. Just because I hunt, doesn't mean I have to accept practices I disagree with.

I stand by my contention that trophy hunting should be relegated to the past.

The issue of trophy hunting in Africa is complex. I haven't seen a definitive study that says it aids conservation. And as I've stated before, for whatever reasons, a few African nations have banned it recently in a move to protect wildlife.

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You're entitled to your opinion and conclusions - misguided as they are - just as peta members are. Just don't expect your anti-hunting sentiments to be embraced on a hunting and fishing discussion forum.