verdict in police shooting.

Somthing to think about .he is now guilty of s crime c omitted with a restricted weapon .mandatory min sentencing is 5 years ..

Didn't the SCC overturn that?

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

Julien Falconer summed things up when he said to the affect that there's no excuse for the Police to use the fact a mentally ill subject has a knife where there's no possibility of that person injuring anyone other than himself. There's no way that person should be gunned down like a dog in the street. Way back when (I know :rolleyes:) we were trained that deadly force could never be used when someone had a knife unless circumstances were so dire that there was no other choice. We were armed with 24" night sticks and collapsables (Asps) and drilled continually during in-service training to disarm,control and arrest persons carrying edged weapons. We were also trained containment and de-escalation tactics and that we had all the time in the world,even days if need be,when no one else was in danger.
So,WTH happened to that raining model?

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Forcillo had completed Use of Force training AND stress inoculation 3 months prior to shooting Yatim.

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I think removing officers is easier said than done. Many end up on paid suspension, sometimes for years at a time.

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I talked to one(Toranna Metro), that had been out for 11 years(last year), eleven friggin years, drawing his pay over a car wreck IIRC.

One should get an extreme max of 24 months, then pass a hard test for social security/Long Term Disability, whatever, and then if failed, be removed from the roster. If one screws up and is healthy, fire him.

A little bit of background on James Forcillo;

James Forcillo[edit]

James Forcillo was born December 30, 1982, in Montreal, Quebec. He is a second-generation Italian-Canadian.^[14][15] He was a constable with six years on the force at the time of the shooting.^[16] Forcillo graduated from a justice program at East Los Angeles College in Monterey Park, California, United States, and received a psychology degree from York University in Toronto. Forcillo worked as a security guard in Toronto, and then was employed as a court services officer for three years. Up until Yatim's death, Forcillo worked as a patrol officer for three years.<sup>[15]

Apparently he did not learn or retain what he learned from his psychology course.</sup>

Let's say an appeal is launched and turns in Forcillo's favour. Does that mean he can be reinstated?

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Forcillo had completed Use of Force training AND stress inoculation 3 months prior to shooting Yatim.

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Obviously,his training retention quotient needs work.

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Let's say an appeal is launched and turns in Forcillo's favour. Does that mean he can be reinstated?

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There'll be enough Police Services Act charges against him to have him sacked,but,in escence,yes he can.

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Obviously,his training retention quotient needs work.

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There'll be enough Police Services Act charges against him to have him sacked,but,in escence,yes he can.

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If acquitted, there will be no PSA charges......

You can get all the training in the world in a gym or classroom but when an officer is faced with a serious encounter for the first time in his career its going to be a crap shoot on how he actually handles the situation. Were the other attending officers who didn't shoot frozen into inaction, or waiting for someone else to take charge or were they on top of the situation and that's why they didn't shoot?

I know nothing of this officers personality but I doubt he started shift with the intention of actually gunning a guy down because he just wanted to fire off his handgun.

Justice department needs to hire English professor to explain and understand what attempted mean...idiocy that lawyers and judges, as well as the jury peers.