Trucks, which one, Tacoma-Frontier or Colorado?

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Originally Posted by fratri

Wow, lots of mixed opinions/thoughts/options.... keep them coming, always good to hear about what others have experienced.

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It is like asking a hunter what is the best caliber, sometimes the best thing to do is to just sit back with some popcorn :)

I was in Haiti for work, we used SUVs to get around, let me tell you, we are being screwed over in North America by the car companies and governments when it comes to capable offroad vehicles as well as good, small diesels. The Toyota Land Cruiser, just a beast that will go anywhere. The Nissan Patrol, wow, saw water half way up the windshield when the guy went into a hole fording a river, no water even came in, we also rode in Mitsubishi Monteros, they are great too.

Notice that nobody brought in a Ford, Chev or Dodge? They actually would buy from Europe directly and ship them across the ocean rather than buy something just just up north. The reason for Europe over Asian is simply left hand vs right hand drive.

$46K USD for a Toyota Land Cruiser 4x4 with 7 passenger seating, setup for water fording and with a very good 4cyl diesel, I wanted to cry when I looked at the crap when I got back home.

The thing is not many people need a vehicle to cross streams and even do much off roading. The manufacturers build what the market wants. Most pickup trucks are daily drivers that rarely get used for what they are capable of. If Haiti had the extensive modern road network they wouldn't drive the same vehicles.

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Originally Posted by Fox

It is like asking a hunter what is the best caliber, sometimes the best thing to do is to just sit back with some popcorn :)

I was in Haiti for work, we used SUVs to get around, let me tell you, we are being screwed over in North America by the car companies and governments when it comes to capable offroad vehicles as well as good, small diesels. The Toyota Land Cruiser, just a beast that will go anywhere. The Nissan Patrol, wow, saw water half way up the windshield when the guy went into a hole fording a river, no water even came in, we also rode in Mitsubishi Monteros, they are great too.

Notice that nobody brought in a Ford, Chev or Dodge? They actually would buy from Europe directly and ship them across the ocean rather than buy something just just up north. The reason for Europe over Asian is simply left hand vs right hand drive.

$46K USD for a Toyota Land Cruiser 4x4 with 7 passenger seating, setup for water fording and with a very good 4cyl diesel, I wanted to cry when I looked at the crap when I got back home.

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Ford Chevy or Dodge don't make serious offroad SUV's. I guess if you want to tap into the North American market you'd need to look at a Jeep Wrangler, and they've more than proven their worth over the decades in the offroading world.

My two cents;

Currently drive a 2014Tacoma and have a 2011 F150 in the driveway.

F150 is twice the vehicle the Tacoma is and that's with the odometer at 246k.

F150 is way better off-road and more comfortable for my hour commute. The ecoboost gives me 90% of 420 ft poundstorque at under 2000 rpm.

I have also spent time in the new lighter F150 with the non turbo 3.5 and as a commuter and an occasional tow vehicle you can't go wrong.

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Originally Posted by last5oh_302

Ford Chevy or Dodge don't make serious offroad SUV's. I guess if you want to tap into the North American market you'd need to look at a Jeep Wrangler, and they've more than proven their worth over the decades in the offroading world.

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Sorry, not really, I have a Jeep, I follow all of that stuff, everyone now except trucks are moving into a unibody construction with independent suspension and everything run on electronics, really hard to build anything off of that. On top of that the trucks are becoming too big for any use offroad, they sink. You can put a massive engine and huge tires but you give someone who knows how to drive a Suzuki Samurai and they will get through a lot more crap and only sip on fuel.

As to the Haiti comment, great highways but no bridges, they all get washed away every hurricane season.

Just drove to long point from Ancaster (I'm here now), drove through construction in Dover and had a long wait at the tims drive through in haggersville.

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Originally Posted by 73hunter

Can't speak to those vehicles but have considered a full size truck ? I don't think the operating costs are much more but so much more functional and comfortable ....like anything else the fuel economy depends a lot on how you drive it

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Flipping a coin would be better than asking to the public! Every brands can have break down and have recalls, this is a fact.

Just like a gun, try them all and pick the one that feel the best. If you have a good budy who works for a dealership, go for it.

I bought a new Sierra in 2011 from a friend of mine, the engine light came on in 2013 and 2014 and they had to replace a spark plug on cylinder #7 each time. Early this year (148000k) it came back on and they replace the bottom end and no question ask. That's good customer service and if it wasn't from my friend I'm sure it would have been a different story. And I forgot, they always send a driver to pick up my truck at my house or at work and drop me either a truck, if I need one, or a car (even to get new tires on). You could say "It wouldn't happen with a Dodge" but that's just BS. Things are not build to last anymore so customer service should one of your main concern.
Enjoy your new truck...

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Originally Posted by Big Jack

My two cents;

Currently drive a 2014Tacoma and have a 2011 F150 in the driveway.

F150 is twice the vehicle the Tacoma is and that's with the odometer at 246k.

F150 is way better off-road and more comfortable for my hour commute. The ecoboost gives me 90% of 420 ft poundstorque at under 2000 rpm.

I have also spent time in the new lighter F150 with the non turbo 3.5 and as a commuter and an occasional tow vehicle you can't go wrong.

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Have to disagree here, if that was the case the 150 would have a much higher resale value. When I last looked the resale value went Toyota, GM, Ford and lastly Dodge?

As far as off road goes I think you are way off the mark too, sorry:) I have a buddy with a Ford 150 and one with a Dodge, they will not even attempt to take their trucks where I can get mine, they are wayyyyy to heavy and they sink like stones. The angle of approach is superior in the Tacoma so is the angle of departure.

As for hauling and towing well you have me there:)

I have an 09 taco wouldn't buy anything else 4 cylinder 5 speed did front brakes at 210000kms not the greatest for power but handles my 8' trailer with a Polaris sportsman just fine. Would recommend 6 cylinder if hauling anything heavier than 3000lbs bought this truck new and haven't spent any money other than the brakes and oil changes.

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I have an 09 taco wouldn't buy anything else 4 cylinder 5 speed did front brakes at 210000kms not the greatest for power but handles my 8' trailer with a Polaris sportsman just fine. Would recommend 6 cylinder if hauling anything heavier than 3000lbs bought this truck new and haven't spent any money other than the brakes and oil changes.

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I hear you.....but that Toyota Tacoma is $8,000 more than the Frontier....

A friend gave me a good quote.... $35,700 out the door for the [COLOR=#000000]2016 Nissan Frontier SV Crew Cab 4x4 5AT.... From what I can tell that is a great price, just wish it had better fuel mileage....

Any Chevy/GM guys, do the same price for the Canyon/Colorado out there?

Might have to go test drive one of the full size trucks this weekend just to see what I am missing....

A lot of great info, just don't understand why our Canadian dealers can't build/sell a 4x4 pickup truck for the average weekend warrior. Anyway the search continues... :)