A country having its own sovereignty, what a novel idea.
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A country having its own sovereignty, what a novel idea.
Both major parties are imploding a bit with the Labour Party dissolving before our eyes, and the current PM leaving by Fall; so maybe they have not as much to lose as it looks ;-). I agree 75% turnout is pretty amazing and can not be set aside lightly. The margin of victory is alarmingly small though - less than 2%! It is amazing to think that a vote result by 38.9% of their population has such a drastic, immediate, and what promises to be a long lasting effect on the whole nation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dythbringer
PM Cameron does appear intent on honouring the referendum result; I guess we will see if he gets to do it on his terms.
Also, that Farage guy from UKIP is hilarious to watch. He sounds like Michael Caine, but comes out swinging like Bill O'Reilly.
More calls yesterday on referendums for ulster and Scotland for independence. Will be interesting to see how that plays out.
Looks like the EU is trying to speed this along too, if you don't want to stay in then get out.
The UK may dissolve, this could cause some very interesting changes.
The Scots lost the last separation referendum by a healthy margin. Despite all the emotional rhetoric,cooler heads will hopefully prevail. They don't have the industrial or resources base to go it alone and all the BS and bluster is just that. Ulster will not separate or they risk losing all the ground they've gained since Ian Paisley kicked the bucket. The western economic markets are already starting to stabilize and will likely continue as things calm down. It's time to have "a wee dram" and chillax.
They're too stingy to separate.
The Scots don't want to leave the EU though. The UK could very well be something for the history books. I think the problem with the EU is that like all governments what started as a good idea just morphed into another bloated political body that overreached its mandate. The stronger members like England can go it alone but the smaller and near bankrupt members will be the ones making the noise as they can no longer survive without the subsidies. Think Greece for example.
I can't speak of anything about Scotland but I know in Northern Ireland the EU benefits are huge. Most of the agricultural and fisheries are EU subsidized, same with the ship yards and film industries, almost to double of what they had from uk. Most kids on border towns go to republic schools and same with jobs. The passport issue is now becoming big as you can have a British or Irish passport being from ulster. The logistics in trying to close that border is huge and didn't work before.
And by close I just mean to seal and patrol like before
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Originally Posted by trimmer21
You musta missed a bunch of info on that Scots referendum. They only chose to stay with the UK because at the time it would have meant losing membership in the EU.
That was the ONLY reason Scotland voted to stay part of the UK. Now that the UK is leaving the EU, Scotland will definitely vote to leave AND you can bet your bottom dollar that the EU will eagerly accept them, just to stick it to the UK.