Another Ethical Question

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

You didn't proof read THAT before you hit "post" did you? ROFLMAO!!

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Omg I just spit my tea out again!!!! Tooooo funny.
Poor sawbill. Omg. DYING lol
His post is soooo funny.
Kinda thought you would have been the first to jump on that Trimmer....being a man cougars corner and all ;)

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Originally Posted by Noseyarentcha

Omg I just spit my tea out again!!!! Tooooo funny.
Poor sawbill. Omg. DYING lol
His post is soooo funny.
Kinda thought you would have been the first to jump on that Trimmer....being a man cougars corner and all ;)

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The only "cougars" that ever tried to corner me was when I had my pay cheque in my shirt pocket with the corporate logo facing OUT. It worked,too.
That reminds me of Johnny Carson asking George Burns why he didn't hang around with women his own age and he said "Because there aren't any."

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

The only "cougars" that ever tried to corner me was when I had my pay cheque in my shirt pocket with the corporate logo facing OUT. It worked,too.
That reminds me of Johnny Carson asking George Burns why he didn't hang around with women his own age and he said "Because there aren't any."

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You were baiting those cougars!

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Originally Posted by Noseyarentcha

You were baiting those cougars!

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Always use bait. Hey,I was single and time was wasting back in the day.LOL

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Originally Posted by GuyJR

But I might add, it if comes to you with a definite kill wound and you just finish it off I would say it's not your deer. Just my 2c.

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I had a buddy, who's view of hunting ethics was that if you can't take the perfect shot, you are better not to shoot at all. A wound animal is just as likely to end up as coyote food as it is to be tracked down and found. Should another hunter have the opportunity and the good fortune to put such an animal out of it's misery, and prevent the above mention possibilities. I would suggest that the kill is his. A lesson to the first hunter who should have taken more care in making his shot placement, or should not have taken a shot at all. It's been my experienced that a well place kill shot, tends to down the animal within the first 100 yards.

You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut

I would absolutely agree that you should take the best shot you can but that is not always practical. If you have ever been part of a southern Ontario deer hunt pushing blocks you know that shooting running deer is the name of the game. Even solidly hit deer can go quite the distance. I also would not consider it good fortune to shoot someones wounded deer. Nor would I want to keep it.

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Originally Posted by Gun Nut

I had a buddy, who's view of hunting ethics was that if you can't take the perfect shot, you are better not to shoot at all. A wound animal is just as likely to end up as coyote food as it is to be tracked down and found. Should another hunter have the opportunity and the good fortune to put such an animal out of it's misery, and prevent the above mention possibilities. I would suggest that the kill is his. A lesson to the first hunter who should have taken more care in making his shot placement, or should not have taken a shot at all. It's been my experienced that a well place kill shot, tends to down the animal within the first 100 yards.

You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut

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So your buddy has never lost a deer? If so he is lucky. Sometimes stuff happens. For example this fall my son had a very nice deer walk out at 25yds while bowhunting (crossbow). When it was broadside he aimed behind the front leg and shot. Just at that instant the deer must have caught some movement and looked up at my son, turning slightly. The shot ended up entering the neck and poked out just behind the front leg. We tracked that deer over 500yds down a ravine and up on top the other side and when we found him he was laying down but still breathing. I put another bolt in him and finished him off. So what started off as an ethical broadside shot turned into something else. BY the way the deer had 13pts and dressed at 227lbs (which we were made painfully aware of dragging it back down and up that ravine. TC

Anyone who assumes that waiting for a perfect shot will guarantee perfect results has not taken too many shots at live animals. It will undoubtedly reduce the chances of things going wrong but as said above, sometimes stuff happens. You can never account for every variable.

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Originally Posted by GuyJR

I would absolutely agree that you should take the best shot you can but that is not always practical. If you have ever been part of a southern Ontario deer hunt pushing blocks you know that shooting running deer is the name of the game. Even solidly hit deer can go quite the distance. I also would not consider it good fortune to shoot someones wounded deer. Nor would I want to keep it.

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Shooting a running deer, that translates into spray and pray. And when you are shooting at a running deer are you constantly checking the background with each shot you make? This goes beyond making an ethical kill shot, this takes you into hunter safety concerns, and on public land where you have no ideas of where other hunters are it can be extremely dangerous and could prove to be down right fatal, and I don't mean to the deer. Just for the record gut shots are not solid hits, lung and heart are, neck and brain shot can be, but are not recommended. Even shooting at the heart and lungs might not produce a solid hit if the bullet is too light and breaks up before actually penetrating the chest cavity. This can also happen to a bigger bullet that pass through branches before they hits. Again, I'm not likely to change your mind as to how you hunt, you may be very good at hitting deer on the run. In my youth I use to take cottontails on the dead run with my old bolt action .22, but I always knew there was some solid ground behind the rabbit to receive the bullet.

You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut

We must live in much different worlds Gun Nut. I would bet that 70%+ of the deer shot in in the southern Ontario controlled hunt are shot during drives or pushes and more are running than not. Just the reality I see.

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Originally Posted by Gun Nut

Shooting a running deer, that translates into spray and pray. And when you are shooting at a running deer are you constantly checking the background with each shot you make? This goes beyond making an ethical kill shot, this takes you into hunter safety concerns, and on public land where you have no ideas of where other hunters are it can be extremely dangerous and could prove to be down right fatal, and I don't mean to the deer. Just for the record gut shots are not solid hits, lung and heart are, neck and brain shot can be, but are not recommended. Even shooting at the heart and lungs might not produce a solid hit if the bullet is too light and breaks up before actually penetrating the chest cavity. This can also happen to a bigger bullet that pass through branches before they hits. Again, I'm not likely to change your mind as to how you hunt, you may be very good at hitting deer on the run. In my youth I use to take cottontails on the dead run with my old bolt action .22, but I always knew there was some solid ground behind the rabbit to receive the bullet.

You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut

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