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900Kgs is approx 1 Ton (2000lbs). When you add the weight of your ATV's (3x750=2250lbs),you get 4250lbs which is only approx. 2000Kgs....well under your max GVWR. Passengers,fuel and gear will need to be added,but,unless you're hauling with a small car,SUV or compact pick up,you should still be well under the max.Quote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
I was waiting for you to show up ! I'm sure you can guide GW to the right information !Quote:
Originally Posted by last5oh_302
My 1st home made built trailer was a 6x10 dual axle. It weighed 1000 lbs at the wheels empty hooked up the the power unit. The axles were 2500 lb axles so the trailer could carry 5000 lbs. Since I did not want to put brakes on this trailer or get it safety checked every year it was registered as a home made and the ownership showed the trailer weight 454kg. As I said before when carrying a load I always made sure I stayed under the 1360kg/ 3000lbs so I did not need brakes on this trailer and made sure I was legal to do this.Quote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
Registered as a homemade there was no serial number, no manufacture rating plate for axles so if you were to be stopped by MTO or OPP the only way you will run into problems is if they weigh your trailer at the wheels with portable scales or at a scale. This is why you need to know your the weights.
At lot of trailers on the road are built with old vehicle axles and they have to be weighed to find a violation and tire size on trailers can also be a legal issue when it comes to weight. Plus trailer and load has to be safe to be pulled on the highway. Clear as mud.
Tracker you're right about the home made trailer not having manufacturers plate/sticker thus not having a mgvwr (so it needs to be weighed) but it still needs a VIN/serial number by law.
It's a possible loophole however (no manufacturers plate) if the officer doesn't weigh the trailer
I didn't have to show anything for my current utility trailer when I registered it as home made.
It still has to have a visible VIN and that VIN will be on your ownership.Quote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
You schooled me on this before, and for the most part the combined GVWR is the kicker.Quote:
Originally Posted by last5oh_302
Or did I misunderstand things previously?
If you pulled me over with my GVWR truck 3950 lbs and 7000 lb GVWR trailer but the total combined actual weight of the combination was only 9999 lbs would I still be fined for not having annual safety inspections?
I mean if it was possible to re register my trailer GVWR to 6000 lbs I would do it. I already asked the manufacturer and they won't / can't reprint the label on the trailer. But if I can challenge it road side and ask for the truck to be inspected based on actual weight and not on what it is capable of, that would be great too, but pretty sure I was told it don't work that way. I know you don't make the laws, just looking for some guidance
It just doesn't make sense when I am following my buddy down the highway with his pick up truck and single axle 6X14 with a side X side in it, and it bounces up and down the road with that single axle, and my tandem axle trailer with an ATV doesn't bounce up and down, but I need to pay out a few hundred bucks a year for annual safeties on truck and trailer, even though mine is a better handling and safer set up.
I know you don't make the rules / laws, just looking for some guidance
B Wilson, no there's nothing you can do.If any one of those three things exceed 4500kgs you need the safeties.
You could take the manufacturers sticker off the trailer and stamp a VIN on the trailer and hope for the best.
Most single axle trailers when hooked up to a half ton pickup of today's standards and ratings require safeties as well. We discovered that in another thread on here recently. It does suck, I agree because the ratings just put it in the safety requirement zone by about 30 kgs It never used to be but weight ratings on newer trucks goes up every year.
My ownership does not show a VIN number it says Home Made or something along that line.
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Originally Posted by last5oh_302
Really? Under make it should say home made but it should still have a VIN or you wouldn't be able to register it.