Wind farms killing with impunity

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Originally Posted by jaycee

It is also a fact that we are producing more energy than is required, AND WE ARE PAYING THE U.S TO TAKE IT OFF OUR HANDS .
Unbelievable the stupidity of our Prov. Gov.

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AND that doesn't even cover the added stupidity of 60 plus cops making 100K plus and on suspension for the year 2016.......you just can't make up this stupid chit.............


MADE THE SUNSHINE LIST AND DIDN'T WORK A DAY.................

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Originally Posted by Bonkers

Okay then, lets take down those turbines and lets start putting up new nuclear reactors. Then for the next million years you can deal with the waste and that eye sore. Southern Ontario has a energy need, do you think it appears out of no where? Plus the financial benefit to the farms who can still farm the land are now making end meet.

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Sounds like you have been drinking the coolade !!!

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Originally Posted by Bonkers

Okay then, lets take down those turbines and lets start putting up new nuclear reactors. Then for the next million years you can deal with the waste and that eye sore. Southern Ontario has a energy need, do you think it appears out of no where? Plus the financial benefit to the farms who can still farm the land are now making end meet.

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Sounds like you have been drinking the coolade !!!
Tell that to the people around here that can't use their well water. The landowners that have turbines are all under a gag clause. Their neighbours now have black well water. Filtration systems cannot keep up with the crap in their water, with filters being replaced almost daily !!!

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Originally Posted by Bonkers

Okay then, lets take down those turbines and lets start putting up new nuclear reactors. Then for the next million years you can deal with the waste and that eye sore. Southern Ontario has a energy need, do you think it appears out of no where? Plus the financial benefit to the farms who can still farm the land are now making end meet.

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Check out page 15 from the Ontario Society of Professional Engineers. (the engineers of this province that our government ignores)
Titled Why Will Emissions Double as We Add Wind and Solar Plants ?
http://c.ymcdn.com/sites/www.ospe.on...Elec_Dilem.pdf

As for the farmers, the only farmers around here who've signed the gag orders and sold out their neighbors to big wind own massive amounts of land and have never had trouble making ends meet in the first place.

How long till they rust and fall down.

How long do they last?

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Originally Posted by glen

How long till they rust and fall down.

How long do they last?

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Supposed to have a 20 year operational life.

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Originally Posted by Bonkers

Okay then, lets take down those turbines and lets start putting up new nuclear reactors. Then for the next million years you can deal with the waste and that eye sore. Southern Ontario has a energy need, do you think it appears out of no where? Plus the financial benefit to the farms who can still farm the land are now making end meet.

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Originally Posted by LowbanksArcher

Check out page 15 from the Ontario Society of Professional Engineers. (the engineers of this province that our government ignores)
Titled Why Will Emissions Double as We Add Wind and Solar Plants ?
http://c.ymcdn.com/sites/www.ospe.on...Elec_Dilem.pdf

As for the farmers, the only farmers around here who've signed the gag orders and sold out their neighbors to big wind own massive amounts of land and have never had trouble making ends meet in the first place.

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Bonkers,

Lowbanksarcher beat me to it. If you look at his link on the page he specified, it clearly states because wind and solar power generation is so unreliable, they require a flexible backup power generation source if demand begins to exceed production with nuclear being too inflexible to be a reasonable backup. So if we have to build power generators to act as a backup power source, why not just build regular coal or LPG power generation plants to supply our power. Yes, emissions are a concern so legislate emission caps for coal production. The technology is out there to treat off-gas. If the technology isn't enough, then you can spend capital to develop the technology.

The government's job in the energy portfolio is to provide reliable and inexpensive energy. They have badly mangled that job.

Dyth

Lets ignore for the purposes of this thread all the financial cost that are well documented, and only start with two separate Auditor Generals ripping the Liberals and GEA to shreds.
For those who live under their shadows
For everyone paying absurd rates and deliveries excluding those who live in um Peterborough or anywhere else deemed "high density". Which is asinine given its cities that draw the most.........by far. Maybe if it was cities paying the much higher rates and delivery charges as it should be..........things would be a little different.
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Not sure how bad the situation in Chatham Kent is with respect to well water, but know its bad. PS if its really bad......what will that do to re-sale value........

You should be concerned about this Bonkers given you live within the affected area. The Oak Ridges Morraine might just be one of the single most important environmentally sensitive area's in the entire province! You know what they say about "stuff" rolling downhill, and the Morraine feeds everything!

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/201...l_hearing.html

http://www.mykawartha.com/news-story...rbine-project/

Oh and have we noticed how many birds and bats they kill?

There are sooooo many reasons to be irate and more, it surprises anyone could even remotely be in favour, or for that matter a "champion"
given so many things.

In 20 years I hope they are all gone.

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Originally Posted by glen

In 20 years I hope they are all gone.

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Maybe . Germany and other European countries are abandoning wind mills because the cost return on what they produce is a joke. We shall see if the Government of the day will come to the same conclusions.