Hunter Shot in Norfolk

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

I think you mean "reported accidents" so I think I will safely assume there are more.The controlled hunt by its very nature in many parts of the Province with big gangs pushing small bush, in more populated area,s lend,s itself to this being a unsafer hunt IMHO.

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In highly populated areas it is harder to cover up accidents yet they are extremely rare.

It may be your humble opinion that gangs pushing bush in SW Ontario is "unsafer" but your opinion has no facts to back it up, your opinion does not define anything here.

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Originally Posted by kokes

sometimes I scratch my head on these forums, we outdoorsmen are our own worst enemy. Statistically hunting is safer then bowling. I am willing to bet there is higher odds I get hurt or killed driving to work then hunting.personally I like to hunt from a portable stand solo and don't care for driving deer, but I will not accuse them of being unsafe or look down on anyone pushing a bush or saying its a recipe for disaster..relax guys, lets wait to see what details emerge from this Norfolk case and use this as another reminder to be safe, law abiding hunters out there...we already have enough anti's lobbying to get rid of our sport so lets not give them any more ammo...just a thought!

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Well said

Love guys who post their opinion and state it a fact then try to change the subject when someone asks them to back up their “facts”

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Originally Posted by Fox

In highly populated areas it is harder to cover up accidents yet they are extremely rare.

It may be your humble opinion that gangs pushing bush in SW Ontario is "unsafer" but your opinion has no facts to back it up, your opinion does not define anything here.

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Like wise your opinion also has no facts to back it up.I base mine on simple common sense,big gangs of hunters pushing small bush lots in more built up area,s
would pose a greater risk.I also do not believe I specified SW Ontario as they do push bush in many other parts of the Province.

The facts of the matter are that hunters are mandated to report hunting accident,s caused by the discharge of firearms where treated by a physician must be reported to a C.O.

So there a loop holes right in that wording,if your not treated by a Doctor its simply not recorded as a C.O. is not called.

The one,s that are reported are on file with the MNR somewhere,but the details of the hunt (controlled or otherwise) is probably not recorded.So you cannot say they are rare its just your opinion.

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Originally Posted by welsh

The best way to stop giving them ammo is to stop having accidents.

And the best way to stop having accidents, as any workplace safety expert will remind you, is to stop denying or minimizing risk.

The hunting community needs to have frank discussions about accidents.

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Point taken.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Like wise your opinion also has no facts to back it up.I base mine on simple common sense,big gangs of hunters pushing small bush lots in more built up area,s
would pose a greater risk.I also do not believe I specified SW Ontario as they do push bush in many other parts of the Province.

The facts of the matter are that hunters are mandated to report hunting accident,s caused by the discharge of firearms where treated by a physician must be reported to a C.O.

So there a loop holes right in that wording,if your not treated by a Doctor its simply not recorded as a C.O. is not called.

The one,s that are reported are on file with the MNR somewhere,but the details of the hunt (controlled or otherwise) is probably not recorded.So you cannot say they are rare its just your opinion.

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It's kind of hard to imagine someone suffering from a gun shot wound (especially from a hunting round) and not being treated by a Doctor. Unless it was a very minor injury,how would that not be reported? Possibly,someone could get treatment and lie their a** off to the Doctor,but,it would take a special kind of naivety for medical staff not to know what they were dealing with.

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

Point taken.



It's kind of hard to imagine someone suffering from a gun shot wound (especially from a hunting round) and not being treated by a Doctor. Unless it was a very minor injury,how would that not be reported? Possibly,someone could get treatment and lie their a** off to the Doctor,but,it would take a special kind of naivety for medical staff not to know what they were dealing with.

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Real easy, I can think of a hundred excuses."I was cleaning my gun when it accidentally went off" "I was at the range" "I was sighting in my rifle in the back 40"
None of this has to be reported as it would not be a hunting accident.Gang bangers in Toronto shoot themselves all the time,clam up to the Doctor and Police,end of story.I am not even to sure if a Doctor is legally obliged to report any thing ( patient confidentiality) its up to the hunter,so there is another loop hole.So sure a Doctor would treat the wound but would they have to report it?

Further research by me indicates gun shot wounds must be reported by the "facility" not the Doctor and reported to the Police.

If I'm not mistaken, doctors are required to report gunshot wounds.

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Originally Posted by welsh

If I'm not mistaken, doctors are required to report gunshot wounds.

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Actually the "facility" should do the reporting and not the Doctor.Its a moot point as the reporting is to the Police not a C.O.

I was shot while duck hunting up by Craiglee when I was younger. I was cutting through the bush/marsh and came upon two older immigrant hunters. They started hollering at me. I apologized and said I was just passing through going to join up with my friends about 1/4 mile further in. At that moment a duck jumped up from the marsh between us. Quiddo raises his gun when the duck was 5 feet up and hit me twice. about 60 yds. Good thing he only had a double. I hollered I was shot and he started loading his gun again.
I think he got scared and was going to finish the job ... I guess. I shucket out my shells and loaded in BB's. told him I would kill them both. Luckily the non shooter partner calmed him down. He packed up a took his partner and left real quick. I got to my friends and they heard the yelling. I stripped down and they took pellets out of me. The gun stock still had pellets in it when I sold it.
No I never reported it.

did any details of this incident (the ortiganlly report accident) come out?

Hi guys ! I live in the general area where the poor guy got shot. Now the December Hunt is over I will ask around to find out more info regarding this unfortunate incident. Otherwise all I know is what in the news. Hunter shot in leg , OPP and MNRF investigated scene and no charges laid.
Who knows …. maybe he will post here and clear up all doubt as to what really happened. I wish him a speedy recovery and feel sorry that his hunting buddies have to live with that nightmarish day the rest of their lives.