I don't know why the deer population crashed

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.I have been to Portugal for instance,you will be lucky to see anything to hunt,period.All shot out over the years

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above by Gilroy

Most definitely you will not find anything to hunt in the cities of Portugal, according to my neighbor who was born there and visits every other year, "there is a lot of game in the countryside "
My Barber is also from Portugal [mainland not the Islands] he and I talk regularly about the hunting there as he goes every year , he owns a few hundred acres and claims the hunting is better there than here.

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Wow! hunting Partridge, with Hares and [Jacks ] we call them running around, and some that know everything say the country is all shot out .

Thanks for posting those links- finsfurfeathers

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

I agree we hunters are pretty good about blaming everyone but ourselves but history shows we are the real culprits in a lot of damage done,think buffalo herds
killed by the millions,carrier pidgeons,wiped out, caribou herds decimated.

Even the jack rabbit situation compared to 35 years ago has changed so much,most of us can remember seeing jacks all over the place,even along Steeles Avenue in the GTA. I am not saying hunters are the sole cause of jack numbers dropping but they sure did help.Some of the poor attitude came with these hunters from their home countries in Europe,go there today and you will see very little game left.Even the songbirds end up on the barbeque.

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Oh yes hunting north of Steeles Ave, jack hunting so close to home.....the memories that brings back. It's funny though because nobodies been hunting those areas for 20 years now and still no jacks.

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Originally Posted by jaycee

Wow! hunting Partridge, with Hares and [Jacks ] we call them running around, and some that know everything say the country is all shot out .

Thanks for posting those links- finsfurfeathers

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No problem thought it was pertinent too show an alternate point of view. Already a bit of back peddling going on. Wouldn't want the sky is falling mentality to catch fire and give ammo and credence to a movement in order to shut it all down.

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Originally Posted by gonduckin

Oh yes hunting north of Steeles Ave, jack hunting so close to home.....the memories that brings back. It's funny though because nobodies been hunting those areas for 20 years now and still no jacks.

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Come take a walk with me. Can show you deer, turkey, and Woodcock as they migrate through. Tricky buggers and hard to pin them down but I'm sure there is still the odd pheasant around and wouldn't be surprised if there is a jack around too.

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above by Gilroy

Most definitely you will not find anything to hunt in the cities of Portugal, according to my neighbor who was born there and visits every other year, "there is a lot of game in the countryside "
My Barber is also from Portugal [mainland not the Islands] he and I talk regularly about the hunting there as he goes every year , he owns a few hundred acres and claims the hunting is better there than here.

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All my relatives are Portuguese and I have actually been there and seen first hand what is available to hunt.In most of my travels there I saw next to no game animals a complete contrast to Southern Ireland where its not unusual to see eight cottontails in one field and lots of wood pigeons over head.I was in the north of Portugal in Fundao,there are mountains near there,lots of farming,it should hold game but next to nothing.Ask your barber if he enjoys barbecued song birds with his beer,a staple over there.

BTW there are not that many song birds there.

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Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers

Portugal looks pretty good too me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8evai7wfYFY&t=709s
[COLOR=#0066cc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tUDb6yHxek
Those who can do.
those who can't preach




Fishing must be good than. There will always be those who can fill a pail and when they can't move on to richer feeding grounds than there are others who sit there and cry how bad the fishing is.

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Posting u tube videos of selected places in Portugal means nothing.The Red Deer in this video had to be reintroduced in parts of the country as they had been
previously hunted out in other area,s.The Roe deer have also had to be reintroduced into parts of the country,partly to help in bringing up the native wolf population?

Please do yourself a favor and simply read the results of the deer hunting and moose hunting on this FORUM and you will see how wrong you are,getting worse year after year and over hunting is partly to blame.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

All my relatives are Portuguese and I have actually been there and seen first hand what is available to hunt.In most of my travels there I saw next to no game animals a complete contrast to Southern Ireland where its not unusual to see eight cottontails in one field and lots of wood pigeons over head.I was in the north of Portugal in Fundao,there are mountains near there,lots of farming,it should hold game but next to nothing.Ask your barber if he enjoys barbecued song birds with his beer,a staple over there.

BTW there are not that many song birds there.

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No sense in discussing anything with someone that knows it all!

by the way , " four and twenty blackbirds baked into a pie " didn't that originate in the British Isles ?

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Originally Posted by jaycee

No sense in discussing anything with someone that knows it all!

by the way , " four and twenty blackbirds baked into a pie " didn't that originate in the British Isles ?

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Not saying I know it all,big difference between you and me is I went to Portugal and saw first hand what was there,where as you talked to your barber.he,he...


Q by the way , " four and twenty blackbirds baked into a pie " didn't that originate in the British Isles ?

R.Yes it probably did and it was a simple nursery rhyme.

"We are all pretty familiar with this little nursery rhyme from when we were children, but did you know that they would actually put birds in a pie as a great joke or form of entertainment?"

How in the world did they do this? Well in medieval times the way they made pie crusts was a little different than in present time. The crust was thick, and could be baked first, and would rise forming a pot, hence the term "pot pie." The lid would be removed from the pie, and the birds would then be set inside, the lid put back on, and then this wildly entertaining dish placed before the host of the party.


P.S. As someone who is constantly eating crow on here I though you would appreciate this little bit of history LOL

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P.S. As someone who is constantly eating crow on here I though you would appreciate this little bit of history LOL[/LEFT]
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I'm no expert so look up someone who is to find a modern recipe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI6slOkbvjA
Seems small birds are common fare