anyone know anything about hunt camp building permits and septic tanks?

Trimmer it really doesn't matter about the permit, I can tell you almost every house in my little community doesn't have a permit including the older farms, in fact I would go as far to say any house more than 50 years in Eastern Ontario doesn't have a permit for a septic at least in eastern Ontario where I live.

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

Abutting crown land with water access at a decent price makes that property worth GOLD,even without a cabin. Take a very close look and don't discount anything. Just be sure to do your due diligence. I know people that would give their left testicle for a chance like that. Say very little further to the municipality. Those "local" folks can bury you with bullshyte. Let your lawyer work it out.

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4.16 HUNT CAMP:
Within the Rural (RU) Zone, a maximum of one (1) hunt camp may be
constructed per lot subject to the following regulations:
a) Maximum gross floor area: 60 square metres;
b) Minimum setback from a front, rear, or side lot line: 30 metres
c) Minimum lot size: 20.25 hectares
d) A hunt camp may not be occupied for more than 90 days in any 12 month
period

keep in mind different townships have different regulations.

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That is very specific, I have seen that sort of thing for a trailer as well, no increased taxes if not used for a certain about of time, sort of thing.

Septic is weird, if it was not already installed and you wanted to have an inside toilet I would tell you to go composing and then have a brown water system for your other drains.

Does this place have a well too?

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Originally Posted by Bowjob

4.16 HUNT CAMP:
Within the Rural (RU) Zone, a maximum of one (1) hunt camp may be
constructed per lot subject to the following regulations:
a) Maximum gross floor area: 60 square metres;
b) Minimum setback from a front, rear, or side lot line: 30 metres
c) Minimum lot size: 20.25 hectares
d) A hunt camp may not be occupied for more than 90 days in any 12 month
period

keep in mind different townships have different regulations.

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I am not disagreeing with your figures Bowjob but my understanding by new MNRF rules is that as long as buildings are up too spec that square footage is not an issue.

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I am not disagreeing with your figures Bowjob but my understanding by new MNRF rules is that as long as buildings are up too spec that square footage is not an issue.

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This can be municipality specific, I have seen it with Trailers on a property.

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I am not disagreeing with your figures Bowjob but my understanding by new MNRF rules is that as long as buildings are up too spec that square footage is not an issue.

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Why would MNR have a say, unless it’s a land use permit scenario? Sounds like municipal restriction to me...

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Why would MNR have a say, unless it’s a land use permit scenario? Sounds like municipal restriction to me...

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yeah your right. it varies from township to township just so the city can tax you accordingly i guess.

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That is very specific, I have seen that sort of thing for a trailer as well, no increased taxes if not used for a certain about of time, sort of thing.

Septic is weird, if it was not already installed and you wanted to have an inside toilet I would tell you to go composing and then have a brown water system for your other drains.

Does this place have a well too?

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checked on ontarios well records says there was one put in in 2009. 122M in depth.

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checked on ontarios well records says there was one put in in 2009. 122M in depth.

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So at least the well is legit.

If you can stomach the price without the cabin/septic then you can always start over if someone comes at you for it.

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So at least the well is legit.

If you can stomach the price without the cabin/septic then you can always start over if someone comes at you for it.

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thats what im thinking. i gottas get someone to figure out if there is anything issued on the land such as a permit. maybe thatll give me my answer.

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thats what im thinking. i gottas get someone to figure out if there is anything issued on the land such as a permit. maybe thatll give me my answer.

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Odd scenario.

Typically a septic can't be installed without a qualifying building, as you need to show occupancy, and calculations for waste water, set backs etc.

A well usually won't be drilled unless there is a record of same, as there are specific requirements under the Source Water Protection Act.

OP, if it's a decent deal, I'd go for it. The age of the building, and the subsequent work, would indicate that even if the structure was done without permit, it likely is grandfathered, as evidenced by the septic, and most recently the well.

Does the township have an interactive mapping site that shows the structure? If so, that's a very good indication that it is.