LTCs. Full blown public inquiry coming

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Originally Posted by fishermccann

You are correct , Harris is CEO of Chartwell a leader in the LTC industry. He earns $237,000 a year in that position. Question is, did he decimate the regulatory bodies in LTC care knowing he would get a job in the industry after politics, or did he get the job afterwards as a 'reward'?

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So...just so I'm clear. You're alleging a former premiere, who left politics almost two full decades ago, is the sole reason for the current state of LTCs? You're further impugning him with baseless allegations as a very crummy way to bolster your argument?

Right. 2003-2018, fifteen full years under Liberal Govt. Tax and spend, ballooning the provincial debt to the highest sub sovereign in the world....during which a major series of crimes occur in LTCs ( Wettlaufer), which in fact launched an inquiry into violence and assault taking place in LTCs.

The Liberal Govt. courted Union and For profit firms, and refused to implement a minimum care standard. In fact it was called out in 2007, by a long standing legislative committee regarding Bill 140 The Long Term Care Homes Act. In which it was shown that understaffing had chronically resulted in higher incidents of violence and deficits of care.

In 2005, Liberal Premier Dalton McGuinty promised to implement a minimum care standard. But in 2007, the government broke that promise by not including it in the Long-Term Care Homes Act despite the urging of those who knew the industry best. Although the Liberals appointed an expert to produce a report on the issue in 2008 – the result of which was more inaction – and promised in 2017 that direct care would rise to four hours by 2022, they ultimately failed to reinstitute the minimum care standard regulation.

....but hey.....continue to spin how something almost 2 decades ago, greatly contributed to the apathy and neglect that took place in the intervening period.

Nope. I never stated he was the sole reason behind the crisis in LTC. Just that the worst of it, started with his mandate. Then he went on to run, (CEO), one of the most profitable companies in the LTC business. And yes all governments since have failed , in that regard.

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Originally Posted by fishermccann

Nope. I never stated he was the sole reason behind the crisis in LTC.

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No, you simply take the opportunity to blame an opposing political ideology to yours, conveniently ignoring the share of the blame that is proportionate to the party you support. You also hurl a veiled allegation of impropriety or cronyism by way of feeble attempt to bolster your argument.

It would be quite convenient to point out that much of Harris' policies vis-a-vis cost cutting were as a result of Bob Rae's Government. ( This is a very definitive causation link), but most of us can acknowledge that the ball has been dropped by successive governments, with not one owning most of the blame.

The current Conservative government happens to be driving the ship when the water gets noticed on the lower decks. Say what you will, but the Ford Govt. has ( despite claims to the contrary), displayed a remarkable amount of accountability during this time of crisis. I have no doubt that this particular issue will see an improvement. Complete resolution will take longer than the current mandate.

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Originally Posted by fishermccann

You are correct , Harris is CEO of Chartwell a leader in the LTC industry. He earns $237,000 a year in that position. Question is, did he decimate the regulatory bodies in LTC care knowing he would get a job in the industry after politics, or did he get the job afterwards as a 'reward'?

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Clearly you don't understand the roles and functions of a Board officer versus those of a corporate executive. Harris did not "run" Chartwell. He sat on their Board.

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Originally Posted by Bluebulldog

No, you simply take the opportunity to blame an opposing political ideology to yours, conveniently ignoring the share of the blame that is proportionate to the party you support. You also hurl a veiled allegation of impropriety or cronyism by way of feeble attempt to bolster your argument.

It would be quite convenient to point out that much of Harris' policies vis-a-vis cost cutting were as a result of Bob Rae's Government. ( This is a very definitive causation link), but most of us can acknowledge that the ball has been dropped by successive governments, with not one owning most of the blame.

The current Conservative government happens to be driving the ship when the water gets noticed on the lower decks. Say what you will, but the Ford Govt. has ( despite claims to the contrary), displayed a remarkable amount of accountability during this time of crisis. I have no doubt that this particular issue will see an improvement. Complete resolution will take longer than the current mandate.

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It’s just more of the same, tired old Liberal mantra......it’s Harris’ fault.....

BINGO the left exposed.

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Originally Posted by Bluebulldog

No, you simply take the opportunity to blame an opposing political ideology to yours, conveniently ignoring the share of the blame that is proportionate to the party you support. You also hurl a veiled allegation of impropriety or cronyism by way of feeble attempt to bolster your argument.

It would be quite convenient to point out that much of Harris' policies vis-a-vis cost cutting were as a result of Bob Rae's Government. ( This is a very definitive causation link), but most of us can acknowledge that the ball has been dropped by successive governments, with not one owning most of the blame.

The current Conservative government happens to be driving the ship when the water gets noticed on the lower decks. Say what you will, but the Ford Govt. has ( despite claims to the contrary), displayed a remarkable amount of accountability during this time of crisis. I have no doubt that this particular issue will see an improvement. Complete resolution will take longer than the current mandate.

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Originally Posted by rick_iles

It’s just more of the same, tired old Liberal mantra......it’s Harris’ fault.....

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Anytime you run into someone still angry about Mike Harris two decades later there is only one question:

What grade do you teach?

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Originally Posted by Badenoch

Anytime you run into someone still angry about Mike Harris two decades later there is only one question:

What grade do you teach?

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ROFL...

You almost owed me a keyboard....i choked on my darn coffee....

Hahahahhahaha

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Originally Posted by badenoch

anytime you run into someone still angry about mike harris two decades later there is only one question:

What grade do you teach?

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Originally Posted by Badenoch

Anytime you run into someone still angry about Mike Harris two decades later there is only one question:

What grade do you teach?

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Hahaaaaa, good one,, the only time I think of Mike Harris is when I drive on hwy 407. That 99 year lease still hurts. Paying a Spanish company for using an Ontario hwy is insane.