More proof that the anti-mask pussies are unstable, delusional and prone to anti-social and violent behavior.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
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More proof that the anti-mask pussies are unstable, delusional and prone to anti-social and violent behavior.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
As I said way back in the thread...Quote:
Originally Posted by GW11
The only form of "protection" that people are getting from masks is between their ears...
There are a few studies out there showing how transmission of this virus is humidity driven. It would explain our case counts during the summer and the current case counts in "continental" climates.
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I find it so hard to believe that people don't understand the reason for masks.
They do not protect you! They protect people YOU might cough on, sneeze on, dribble on or lick! We're not launching rockets here.
Well I hope the virus doesn’t like - 35 degree Celsius weather....well at least the droplets will freeze instantly and fall to the ground quicker. lol
That when the virus is in its ideal conditions. We were not in the season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
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That happens when it's humid, droplets are bigger and stick together and fall quickly to the ground. When it's cold and dry they are smaller and float around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deer Hunter
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If that is in response to me, I'm fully aware of their intended purpose (which is why I put the word in quotations).Quote:
Originally Posted by TroutSlayer
You are not being protected by my mask.
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Has nothing to do with the anti masker'sQuote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
Now a days it is over the stupid little things.
Like looking at someone the wrong way or telling someone they cut in front of you in line or a road rage . It's nothing new it just started over a mask that's all still no excuse for it .
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What's hard to believe is the amount of lies that we've been told in the last several years and people still give those same people credibility.
I don't blame anyone for questioning their horseshyte, it needs to be done regularly at this point.
Question every thing. Ask for proof of any statement, if no proof can be provided, disregard that statement in any evaluation of the situation.
If your coughing and sneezing in public and on others, you have little respect for others to begin with. Why anyone that shows symptoms of being sick is out in public space coughing on people is beyond me. Thats far more disrespectful that someone healthy not wearing a mask imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by TroutSlayer
They have proof that you may have it , not knowingly and spread it before you have any symptoms. Do you pay attention when every medical officer of health comes on tv daily to tell you such things? Or when they give their information through all media ,do you just tune out the message?
I don't cough or sneeze on people so I guess others be alright as long as I keep distance.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
The crowd of arseholes outside a BBQ in Toronto and then Doug Ford's home would suggest differently as would the guy punching out a disabled Walmart greeter or the scumbags who spit on workers. Anti-mask puss are itching for a fight but only if they've got friends or their target is disabled.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishfood
Still waiting for a pm. No friends, just me, my yard. You can come and call me a anti mask pu##y and see for yourself...lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
That's exactly how you should treat every liar.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Yup everything. If you can't prove it , it is untrue. I would not call anyone a liar, if what they are saying ,is what they truly believe to be true..... misinformed, to be generous?.. Just that what they are saying, is false, without proof.Quote:
Originally Posted by onelessarrow
I don't believe everything the medical experts are telling us, do you, really?. In April they told us no need to wear masks just keep distance. Now they are telling us to wear a mask it will stop the spread. Why is the spread surging now everyone is wearing a mask? Their recommendations are not showing any proof that their working, can you not see that for yourself. If you watch the news you must see the numbers, they are still climbing with the city shutdown..Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Exactly! For the trouble it takes to mask up, I have no idea why these people refuse to believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
The crowd at the BBQ has every right to be there . Just like the right I have to go to Costco down the Rd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
The guy at Walmart or people fighting or spitting has happened since the beginning. Like I said it happens often not all are anti masker's some don't like to be told what to do. Lots of acts of this violence has been happening for year's. If it's the Anti masker's why did the kid that beat up a grandfather in Sutton wasn't over a mask yet it was this same act of violence.
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Do you understand what people did during the Spanish flu? They took off their masks and learned to live with it. The world didn't come to an end did it?Quote:
Originally Posted by TroutSlayer
Why would I ever listen to a doctor when I can come here and get the right answer from a few guys who say they know better?
NO they don't...as the Marketplace video explains. Those fabric masks that everyone is wearing don't stop squat... coming or going. They a give you a false sense of safety all the while doing nothing to protect you from getting or spreading the virus.Quote:
Originally Posted by TroutSlayer
The only masks that work ...the N95 or Surgical mask that get disposed of after use...not rolled up and put in your pocket .
FF.....Not without a mask ,and in greater numbers than mandated by law, you can't . Not without breaking the law.
The World did come to an end for the millions of people who died from the flu.You're being simplistic about this.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
No, the world didn't come to an end, but it did come to an end for quite a few peopleQuote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
Marketplace? CBC? You have never believed them before, why the change of heart?Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
But the people on the television are telling us they work...lolQuote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
Yet if rebel news said masks worked , some on here would take it as ' gospel'. lol.
It's an opinion not a belief and it's based on the information we're given from proven liars.Quote:
Originally Posted by TroutSlayer
For the most part people are compliant with the masks, so they're entitled to that opinion.
And many people died from bacterial pneumonia from prolonged mask wearing. Its happening now in 2020Quote:
Originally Posted by bdog
We use those. You can get them in a hardware store(and even the dollar store) as construction workers use them when sawing etc.... You can reuse them by washing them in hot soapy water. They also don't fog your glasses.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
Sorry but you would have to be... 'misinformed', to choose to believe a Neanderthal outside a BBQ joint instead of an epidemiologist with a specialty that cost them an extra couple of years residency in medical school. 6 years of med school, or a guy that BBQ's brisket?Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
Well I didn't see all the police doing anything about it . Did the police fine any of them or the bylaw officer? Why not ?Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Seems like the police were not standing 6 ft apart . Lined up side by side . Is it law to wear it outside ?
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I should be dead than. Been wearing the same unwashed cloth mask since June. Wires actually started to break through and are now scratching my nose. Might be time to get a new one.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
As an aside I have been screened over 1000 times since April for work. Entry and exit to some facilities where we have service contracts requires screening. Record so far is screened 24 times in one day.
To be accurate this is not actual testing it is completing a questionnaire, signing in and out for tracing purposes and having your temperature checked at entrance and exit. So far after 1000+ temperature checks I have always been between 35.2 and 36.1 Celsius i.e. normal.
Have been contacted once due to possible exposure. Was required to get a test and isolate until test results came back negative.
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Originally Posted by bdog
You both have to remember the times 100 years ago technology and medical is not the same . Medical procedures are not even the same in the last 10 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Why did many just die at a young age or old age even many died in their 30s in the early 1900s. From Many different sicknesses what killed thousands back then kills little now . You can't base the deaths from a pandemic 100 years ago .
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I have to ask , but really, what side of this debate are you on? You flip flop like a fish on the deck. Mask or no mask ? Follow the law or not?Quote:
Originally Posted by fishfood
It's not just about his business it's about every business .Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
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And your answer says what? No content. Believe Neanderthals or MDs. ?Quote:
Originally Posted by fishfood
I take everything in the media and/or from medical sources subject to political pressure with a grain of salt. I do however have three close friends one is a respiratory specialist, one is a general surgeon, last is a trauma surgeon. Off the record they all advise masks do more good than harm. I believe them as sitting around the wood stove drinking whiskey they have no reason to mislead me. They are also some of the smartest people around.
If you want to send me a PM go right ahead kitten. You're the keyboard kommando with something to prove.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
Just stating that if laws were broken they why were left ignored from all the police and bylaw enforcement they had there. ?Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
If these laws meant anything would you not think they would enforced the law . Just asking ?
I'm 50 50 on the mask's only wear it shopping [emoji57] but I do use it properly . It might not be a 3 ply yet but whatever lol. I'm not going to bash others who don't.
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Huh? Who's the expert that's deciding on who's essential to stay open.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
The expert that obviously knows they're sacrificing the lives of all ages with this decision.
The expert is likely the one that claimed we needed to all stay home at the beginning of the pandemic and then proceeded to head to his Cottage.
I didn't say everyone, but many did. The latest I saw a few days ago was a child that died from it. The culprit was considered the mask he was wearing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Species8472
I'm not at all anti-masker, but if the masks worked like our medical experts are telling us they will, why the increase of virus. The numbers are surging not declining, why is that if the masks will stop the spread?
In many cases laws are overlooked momentarily ,to prevent escalation of the situation, which many of the protesters want.In the best interest of the public at that time.A good use of the powers given police.
Exactly, do as I say, not as I do. Even our pm is a self-entitled dictating prickQuote:
Originally Posted by onelessarrow
Shut em down [emoji106] not this one sided . Why only half as$ shut down . Nothing or all .Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Keep a few places to a minimum and shut the rest . Not close only 20 percent half backwards like the gun ban it does little to stop the problem.
Next week we will see how peel is doing should drop off next week but I don't see that happening. . Not in the flu season . Shut down half the government we don't need them right now they need to help fight . Can't just keep putting the pressure in the same areas . Why do you need 10 Tim Hortons drive thru open at every street corner. During a lockdown why are they so busy ?
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No expert made the decision. Ford and the conservative government did. On the advice of ‘his ‘ medical officer of health, and a pool of educated experts. He and his cabinet made the call.
Try wearing your masks outside when it's cold for a change. That should give you some indication of what masks aren't doing.
I may come off as anti-mask in this thread, but I wear one all day every day at work and where required to by law. Some of my work involves extended periods in a cold work environment, around -25 C, where I'm still expected to wear my mask as per company policy. What you can see going through your masks in a cold environment should be sobering. Any one of those individual droplets that make up your breath cloud can carry enough of the virus to infect someone. The drier the air, the more it carries. It goes through when it's warm too, you just don't see it.
But, as previously stated, I'm no doctor.
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It's a vicious cycle bud .Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
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Buck stops at the top.
The only keyboard commando is you calling certain people useless pu##ies. I'm only offering you a chance to prove your name calling on others you don't even know. The only one with something to prove is you by putting your money where your mouth is..lol. So far all I hear are crickets...lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
Best post made all day. How true it is!Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
Just like Ford going to his cottage day’s after telling everyone else not to. Guess that’s okay because one is a conservative? Good for the goose,......Quote:
Originally Posted by Tigboy 304
Any particular reason you left out Trudeau going to the cottage?
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Originally Posted by fishermccann
Self evident ,in the fact I was replying to someone's mention of the prime minister on the post right above it.. 653... Oh my, so quick to judge.
Fish conveniently forgot to mention that in his post the kool-aid is affecting his memory.Quote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
You guys are priceless. See post above. 656..... Follow the dots.........Rational deduction.
Exactly, no experts, on the contrary, they could be making a terrible mistake, hence the reason for protesting that his charter rights are being stepped on.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Nonessential is just a BS label and only lessons people's worth.
Being sacrificed based on your occupation with more than enough support to show that it'll cause more damage is reason enough to protest.
Totally agree. Lets punish whomever is responsible , for trampling on those charter rights, next election. Sacrificed for your occupation? Teachers are still working.
C'mon kitten. You're the one who wants to prove something and you won't even PM me. Too funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
Teachers sacrificed? Seriously. There hasn't been any deaths has there?
There was a horrific domestic incident just north of me yesterday where a young child was killed and a police officer was seriously wounded.
Sadly, the seriousness of these lockdown decisions are going to come with stories that'll be unprecedented.
Please don’t you guys get this thread shut down with your shenanigans. It is educational , informative, enlightening and entertaining, all you need in a thread.
Is everything bad that people do , going to attributed to the Covid lock downs? Did he abduct his child because of lockdown policies implemented by the government? That could never be proven one way or the other. Lots of mental health issues will be exasperated by this crises. I have to go with ‘what is best for the most people ‘.
Heard about that yesterday not good ,a horrific tragedy .Quote:
Originally Posted by onelessarrow
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So what is best for most people lockdown?Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Seems like most people will live without any restrictions.
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Who really knows what is best. Ford has taken the advice from his health experts and decreed lockdowns are the best course of action. Agree or not he is the leader of the sitting majority government. I will say that I am surprisingly satisfied with the job he is doing in such difficult times .
Of course it could be proven in the investigation as a contributing factor.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
That's ridiculous to say it couldn't.
Increases in domestic disputes are up everywhere as well as suicides and we're only at the earliest stages of the social ramifications of these lock downs.
I don't know how any citizen knows what's best, when we can't even be informed of any detailed information to compare if it's the right decision.
That would require journalism with integrity to research and ask pertinent questions. We have 8 months to look at.
That just won't happen with most of our media today.
AAnything could be a contributing factor. In most court cases you have to prove negligence in the decisions made. If you are following expert advice and you are doing it with the best available information, negligence would be almost impossible to prove. Why won’t media step up and do an in-depth investigation.?Guess the media are all pro Conservative. Conservative government made those laws.Quote:
Originally Posted by onelessarrow
How does a tragedy become the conservatives problem ?Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
It was a tragedy and we all know that shutdowns and lockdowns bring more of these tragedies and other unnecessary death's and mental problems. . . It may or may not have played a roll but the roll will only increase in these circumstances.
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This crisis not the fault of any government but they are responsible for their response.
That's exactly right, anything can be a contributing factor.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
You're ignoring the fact that 30 + million people are simultaneously having their social network be turn upside down. It could easily contribute to disastrous results.
Historical data is all you need to compare.
I guess if there was a baby boom of tenfold from last spring, covid lockdowns would have nothing to do with that?
Pretty basic logic man.
2392 Rundle Road, Bowmanville. Nothing to hide. You want to come and call me a useless pu##y in person feel free anytime you like.Quote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
Hehe I did that a bunch of years ago on the Simcoe board nothing happened maybe 6 7 years ago. .Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
He even lived close by lol..
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Can I drop by and we can discuss Justin's re election plans over a coffee.LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
Sure, no problem..lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
LOL. Kitten, you're the one with the problem and yet you're sufficiently delusional to think I'm going to drive across the GTA to call you names? You can come to me. Send me a PM the next time you are in Wellington County.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
Pu$$ies are rather the opposite of useless, and I'll thank you not to use female genitalia as a slur on this site, good sir.Quote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
OK I just about spit up my coffee.
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Originally Posted by MeghanOOD
One rule for one another for them.
Watching the question period from Ottawa not one wearing a mask.
In side of a building a government building and not a mask is seen they are over the 10 person capacity limit ? Nor are they 6 ft apart .
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Masks do nothing to stop or prevent the spread.
Even CDC acknowledges this.
But the media has 95% of Canadians brainwashed, so it's a moot point.
With 99.5% mask compliance - they are reporting numbers still going up. Either masks don't work or they are lying about the numbers.
But carry on - the government is soooooooooooooo concerned about your health they are willing to bankrupt the nation for it!
Sorry people - you are all being played.
In 5 or 10 years maybe some will wake up and realize it.
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/...a-great-reset/
Oh I was only pointing out was, it's ok for the government, but not the rest [emoji107]
If your in power and in office it's ok not to wear them during the meeting[emoji1787][emoji1787]
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LMFAO, post of the year right there. If there was ever a need for a like button that proves it.Quote:
Originally Posted by MeghanOOD
Quote Originally Posted by MeghanOOD View Post
Pu$$ies are rather the opposite of useless, and I'll thank you not to use female genitalia as a slur on this site, good sir.
Very well done Meghan!!!! I mean this sincerely.
Now 3 is worse than 2 ply if you use it more than once lol.
Glad I never left the 2 ply lol.
https://torontosun.com/health/wearin...e-at-all-study
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They missed the real point point....wearing dirty masks just spreads the virus. Taking it off and rolling it up in a ball and sticking it in you pocket only to take it out and to use it again just spread the virus all over your hands twice. Unless you immediately wash your hands after touching your mask, your spreading the virus.Quote:
Wearing a used mask can be worse than not wearing one at all
I love watching people take off their mask, then touch their face or handle the shopping carts and steering wheels. All the mask was doing is collecting the virus on it's surface so to can wipe it on your hands and spread it around.
Small example: Watch someone approach a store...out comes the dirty mask , handles it, puts on face and the next thing they do is grab the handle to the door into the store...the next guy the same... all day long....
And now that there isn't someone watching the sanitizer station...most just walk right past it..
Wonder why the Virus is spreading so much since they made masks mandatory...that's the reason.
I see it all the time
We keep ours on our dashboard have half dozen to choose from lol.
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You are right MP. All because people cannot follow 'best practices'. You know, the right way to use and wear masks. It does not mean masks are ineffective... they are effective, if worn and changed correctly. That is a person problem, not a mask problem.
Is there any advice on using a mask.?Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
It's just use it or else pay a fine .
Many places around the world showed you how to properly use a mask .
For 34 million Canadians it's the first time using these in public . We need to be trained how to use them not just say you have to wear it .
It's like anything and the majority of users don't know how to . But I see nothing done about it, maybe if they took the time to they might actually work. Instead of making a commercial about inviting uncle covid over they can have some on using a mask properly . Instead of commercials telling you to wear it they could tell you how to handle it.
But they are not so therefore masks will not work here because most don't use them properly.
Half year later and nobody knows lol.
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Oh I think they know, just to lazy and possibly cheap, to do it correctly. You can buy those disposable ones in bulk, works out to about 15 cents each. People are to cheap to throw away that 15 cent mask. 'I can use it all week'.
How do you know they know?
Not everyone ,accually noone knows everything .
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As I said way back in the thread, masks are PPE. All PPE requires proper training for proper use. Improperly used PPE can and does result in injury and death.
Expecting the untrained masses to go forth with their masks and "protect each other" is an absolute joke.
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True. But... I did not say, that they did know, I said, 'I think they know'. I guess they should start posting those video's on how to correctly wash your hands as well. You know the thing we are supposed to do a dozen times a day, minimum.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishfood
I went from washing my hands once a week to every time I come home hehe . They never been so clean .Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
When you get to that dark spot on your sandwich you don't have to eat it lol. Probably why I missed my annual cold should have gotten it right away September November the latest lol.
Exception of food handling
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Just thought I would toss in here. My Sister Inlaw who is a nurse in Ottawa just received the Pfizer Vaccine first dose yesterday. Will see how she feels later today and when she gets the second dose.
Thanks GW , please keep us informed.
Hopefully,someone comes up with a single dose vaccime. Having to do a second dose just doubled the workload at a time when it's least needed. The Moderna vax,I'm told,will be a single dose,but,will be a while before it's available.Quote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
I think I heard that the Moderna was also 2 shots but the storage issues are less.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
Unfortunately the mRNA based vaccines requires two shots.....Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
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The Moderna vaccine was effective in preventing Covid-19 cases in total and in limiting severe Covid-19 during the trial.
The vaccine's efficacy against Covid-19 was 94.1%, occurring at least 14 days after the second dose, according to a briefing document released by an advisory committee to the FDA.
Moderna's vaccine is administered as two 100-microgram doses given 28 days apart. Pfizer's vaccine is administered as two 30-microgram doses given 21 days apart.
A little troubling:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/17/healt...now/index.htmlQuote:
Established in 2010, Moderna has never brought a product to market, or gotten any of its nine or so vaccine candidates approved for use by the FDA. It had also never brought a product to phase three of a clinical trial previously.