You need to subtract approx 150.00 for the materials per student. Also rental cost for where they are teaching the course. I would say at best they make approx 100.00 per student. 2000.00 for 20 hrs.
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Originally Posted by grizzlygreig
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You need to subtract approx 150.00 for the materials per student. Also rental cost for where they are teaching the course. I would say at best they make approx 100.00 per student. 2000.00 for 20 hrs.
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Originally Posted by grizzlygreig
Ok... Still not bad money!... But not having a option to choose here is what I am getting at... And dyth it is not just a rich mans sport... It's a individuals choice what he spends to be in the out doors.... IMO... No offence to ya boys!...
not looking for a pissing match....lol
The comparison there Grizzly is relative value, whether it's golfing or going to the movies, or a hockey game.
True different coarses charge different amounts. Back when I golfed (quite a lot) I wanted two things from any coarse. Greens and T boxes in good shape, not ok shape, good shape. That means maintenance and that means cost. "Better" coarses, cost more to play at. Maybe Im finicky about how T times aka time to play 18. Some coarse push foursome through every 4 minutes, some 8minutes. It will cost me more to play a coarse that doesn't push as many golfers through in a day, but some public coarses you can get stuck behind slow players for hours. That to cost.
Regardless whether I paid 40,80 or 120 for a round. 6 hours of entertainment. In a year I might get out 30 times. If the average cost is 60, that $1800 bucks. Once I pay the $60, $80 or $150 for my Hunters ed..................
The law says we must be certified, the same law applies to driving, and many other things. We must demonstrate a certain level of profiecency before we are allowed to play. Relative to those (many/most of them) its "cheap"
http://www.scuba2000.com/index.php/t...n-to-dive.html
That said, comparing the cost here, to the cost elsewhere is also a fair comparison.
All of the above, are simply different ways to skin the same cat
As somebody mentioned, it's only a one time cost. I wouldn't complain about the cost of the course, as long as the quality of training is good. I had good instruction when I took mine years ago and my son recently had a real good instructor as well...
However, a few years ago, I needed to take a Bow Hunter education course, (which is only offered a few places in Ontario) in order to be allowed to do a bow hunt in New Brunswick. I was very disappointed with the course.... 2 day course ( about $300), plus hotel room and meals, because it was far from home...... and I kid you not, 50% of the time was wasted, with chit-chat and listening to everyone's hunting stories, etc. This same outfit does the firearms, hunting and restricted courses as well. I hope the level of training is better at these courses, with "new" hunters and shooters.
And on a second note:, One of the reasons that the course fees are maybe maintaining a pretty high cost, is that there is little or no competition. I inquired about being certified as an instructor a couple years back. I have some significant "Train the Trainer" education through my work and have a good deal of experience training and educating in a group setting. I would love to do the OHEP and Firearms courses, as a bit of a side-line... in a subject matter that I'm keenly interested in.... but I was told that they only certify instructors in geographical areas where they feel they are needed... so with a couple different instructors near my home, I'm SOL.... A little more competition in the industry might drive the costs down a bit.
Any questions about the Ontario Hunter Education Program (www.ohep.net) may be directed to [email protected] or by calling (705) 748-5785
Dythbringer are you kidding me. the cost is not the issue here the problem is it is a set price and as we have heard there is no competition . Like I said it is not the money we in Ontario are not only getting bled dry by our government we are also getting bled dry by our hunter safety course . I urge you to check these websites out and the cost and tell me if you think it is right for us to be charged this much
http://www.atlantichuntered.ca/nb/HunterEducation.htm
LESS THAN A HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR BOTH PAL AND HUNTERS COURSE.. AND WE PAY 300 I THINK A PHONE CALL TO MY MPP IS IN ORDER
Mark, you need to READ your web post carefully!Quote:
Originally Posted by mark270wsm
You're ranting about the Ontario costs where individual instructors have to provide all their own course materials VS a New Brunswick course TAUGHT BY A DEPT. OF NATURAL RESOURCES STAFF MEMBER!
In other words, the N.B. GOVERNMENT provides the materials for the course (and paid for by taxes) - Certainly when the gov't pays for everything they can do it as cheaply as they want because they recoup the costs from taxation!
are iindividual instructors able to right off things like hotels, gas, and other things like class rooms to teach in as kinda like a small Business?... Wonder if the ontario government would be able to do the same thing that the New Brunswick government does and have our MNR do the course here for the same cash as N.B.?... We pay way more taxes then they do there ... Don't know for sure about the taxes but we pay our fair share for sure!!!!
Seriously what is your problem ??? This thread has been nothing but you bashing the ohep program. Now a question to you have you taking the courses and failed and this is the reason for you ing about it ? If not and you took the course and passed that don't worry about it. If you haven't take the course and want to challenge it then do it and when you fail you'll be on here ing because the "took" you $80 or $90 and wouldn't let you pass. If you want to go take your course in another province or country do it. But remember you better have lived there for over 6 months before they let you. There not going to let you take it just because you want to, especially if your doing to cheat in another province. It's a one time thing, once you've passed your done with. I paid it and it never bothered me one bit. I don't see OHEP instructors living in million homes,driving $60,000+ vehicles, and throwing $100 bills around. Seriously give it rest and move on with it. No one on here cares about your hate for the OHEP program cost. This thread really needs to be shut down.Quote:
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