Ignorance of the law is not a defense. Clients know what they're doing. It would never wash in court.Quote:
Originally Posted by chris lavoie
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Ignorance of the law is not a defense. Clients know what they're doing. It would never wash in court.Quote:
Originally Posted by chris lavoie
You are right trimmer but the outcome of the investigation does allow the CO to decide whether he charges the client or not. An outfitter is considered an agent. For instance, a hunter must notch and tag his bear but an outfitter can do it for him. If the tag is notched wrong both will be charged.
A client gets a form 33 allowing the hunter to bear hunt in the outfitters assigned lease. The hunter has no idea where the bma boundries are. If a hunter is set up outside the bma and gets a bear the bma holder will get charged, the hunter after the investigation might be charged maybe not. But looses the bear to the crown.
CO knows whether the client is telling the truth or not. At CO's and procecutors discretion. Happens with a few outfitters from time to time.
Clients most definitely do get charged , just look at what happened to Thomas Pigeon, He argued that he had no idea that the outfitter was not doing things legally when he hunted Musk Oxen.
The outcome of the court case , he lost everything .
I know of an instance where an outfitter way east of here that set a custumer up outside his bma. After going in front of the judge. Client lost the bear but was not fined for being out of his outfitters BMA. Outfitter lost his BMa.
So why then do outfitters get tags from the mnr? for non residents only?
I don't understand your question. I think residents can use an outfitters adult seals.
Earlier I explained we bought a cow tag from an outfitter in Armstrong for 900$ and was told that was illegal and we And the outfitter could be in big do do.
I read somewhere that it is illegal to sell a hunting license for more than what the mnr sells the license for.
If it's illegal turn them in!! It's as simple as that.
Trimmer again is right, "Ignorance is no excuse". But its up to the judge in the final outcome. I've seen many instances where outfitter rightfully pays and the client does not.
It was more than 10 years ago and we had no idea we may have fouled up the rules as it seemed ok , not like Psssss guys , u wanna buy a cow tag? Ok don't tell anyone and if u get caught I don't know you. .. LOL
You guys know its happening, complain over and over, but do not ask the omnr to look into it?? It's as simple as picking up the phone and calling your district. They have to investigate if you phone in a complaint.