Ontario’s sweeping Moose Project proposal leaves hunters reeling. Have your say now.

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Originally Posted by chris lavoie

As long as a hunter has a calf tag, and he see's one, he will shoot it. Even if deep down he knows he shouldn't take the calf.

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umm... yeah... "slaps forehead" kinda sounds like you just agread with what ive bin argueing for 3 days LOL

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Originally Posted by welsh

Nice to see responses like these.

Moose numbers are down not just in Ontario but elsewhere. I gather there's some panic in Minnesota, for example. I can't claim to have any handle on actual moose numbers, actual population trends, or causes, but I do know I see a lot of complaints about how bad things are.

Something has to be done ... not sure I like seeing the OFAH push back.

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Terry
With regards to the OFAH pushing back there are a few issues that have been overlooked and should be addressed
1- consider this, opening weekend and you have a cow tag in your pocket, cow with calf walks in front of you in a cut, in 2014 you were able to shoot both now all of a sudden you cant, you gonna shoot the cow and orphan the calf , tell me wheres the Logic?
2-moving the opener in 2016 to the second week, how is that going to help the moose population, trust me the success rate will go through the roof, a lot more gangs will be teaming up to fill tags and the chances of accidents are going to increase
i can go on but I'm sure everyone has an opinion, I'm all for change, BUT don't just shove these ridiculous proposals down our throats with out thinking them through

But then again its not actually about saving the moose, if you look into this and read between the lines the MNR still needs to get their monies some how and how better a way to keep the money from licenses coming in than having a "2 week window to hunt calves"

so instead of giving the calf a chance to survive we are gonna just outright shoot it? kinda like a doctor telling a cancer patient, you may make it, but why risk it, we have approved assisted suicide, so im gonna go ahead with that...

i have a calf hanging around my place with no mama, looks good and healthy...

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Originally Posted by chris lavoie

Western Ontario, shut the moose season down in wmu 7b, 8 and have resident only for wmu #5. Make decisions wmu specific.

As long as a hunter has a calf tag, and he see's one, he will shoot it. Even if deep down he knows he shouldn't take the calf.

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I agree with changes being unit specific, BUT what will happen is a massive influx of hunters going to WMU's with minimal changes WMU 21A is a good example
And DO NOT close the hunt at all, once its closed we WILL NEVER get it back

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Originally Posted by fishy steve

so instead of giving the calf a chance to survive we are gonna just outright shoot it? kinda like a doctor telling a cancer patient, you may make it, but why risk it, we have approved assisted suicide, so im gonna go ahead with that...

i have a calf hanging around my place with no mama, looks good and healthy...

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A lot of hunters will, we can all say what we want sitting behind a key board but when you're out in the bush and its standing there chances are that 90% of hunters will take the calf!!
I say just stop the calf hunt for about 5-7 yrs and see if this actually does help in increasing the moose herd

They don't have to shut it down. They already have the perfect tool to manage it, " the tag system". All they have to do is reduce the tags. In some units not so much, in others drastically. One thing that will be tricky during the no calf season is party hunting. By law you need to be in communication with a tag holder. So if the guy with the tag is 10kms away and you don't have a calf tag to hunt off of you in theory are hunting illegally. most of moose country doesn't have reliable cell service if any and radios are no hell. People will have to hunt closer during the no calves season.

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Originally Posted by 270 WBY

I say just stop the calf hunt for about 5-7 yrs and see if this actually does help in increasing the moose herd

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I agree. That and reduce the cow tags. You also have to be careful to not over harvest bulls. They aren't as agressive breeders as deer are and you don't want a bunch of dry cows going into winter. You should almost think of retarding the bull harvest to make sure enough are around to breed as many cows as possible.

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Originally Posted by terrym

They don't have to shut it down. They already have the perfect tool to manage it, " the tag system". All they have to do is reduce the tags. In some units not so much, in others drastically. One thing that will be tricky during the no calf season is party hunting. By law you need to be in communication with a tag holder. So if the guy with the tag is 10kms away and you don't have a calf tag to hunt off of you in theory are hunting illegally. most of moose country doesn't have reliable cell service if any and radios are no hell. People will have to hunt closer during the no calves season.

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Terry you know damn well what goes on during the moose hunt, 10kms is nothing!!
What we truly need is a bigger CO presence

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Originally Posted by terrym

I agree. That and reduce the cow tags. You also have to be careful yo not over harvest bulls. They aren't as agressive breeders as deer are and you don't want a bunch of dry cows going into winter. You should almost think of retarding the bull harvest to make sure enough are around to breed as many cows as possible.

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A lot of mature healthy bulls are taken during the archery season before they actually breed and lets not get started on the NATIVE hunt

as i said before i live and hunt in 48 where we have a calf tag draw, and we have a ton of moose... so dont need to shut it down completely, just limit the tags, currently there are around a 100000 calf tags... if only 1% of those are filled thats still a 1000 calves taken...