Canadian Tire selling illegal Turkey loads?

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Originally Posted by Quigy

I saw these the other day and nearly died at the price. But I'm thinking I might pick some up and see how much deader they kill gobblers. Just not sure I see a lot of downrange potential with the 7's, so why include them? At close range, anything should work and pattern shouldn't be an issue.

The box looks pretty though.

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It is all marketing, if you can put #7 in there then it looks like you have more pellets on target. The problem I see is that at 40+ yards how much energy do each one of those #7 pellets have? Will they even penetrate the skull of the turkey for a kill shot?

The shells are not illegal, they are just not legal for hunting turkey in Ontario as they contain shot other than #4,5,6. I personally like #6 shot, tons of pellets on target but I am also keeping my shots to 30 yards, I enjoy that range and the birds are really dead, not just a little dead.

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Originally Posted by bardern

I dont get the expensive cost thing guys.

You buy two boxes of five Hevi shot at $17, use part of one to see what pattern you are getting and the remainder goes to hunting use. So you have 10 shells say pattern two of those you are left with 8, that should get you through 4 seasons. So over four seasons of turkey hunting you are spending less than 10 bucks a year in shells.

I wish waterfowling was that cheap

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I'm not sure I understand what you are saying. The price you mention is more reasonable than what the OP is talking about. The OP is talking about shells that cost $50 plus tax for 5. That's about $11 each for a shotgun shell (!). We are not talking about a precision rifle round here, just a shotgun shell. To me, the price is simply ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by rf2

I'm not sure I understand what you are saying. The price you mention is more reasonable than what the OP is talking about. The OP is talking about shells that cost $50 plus tax for 5. That's about $11 each for a shotgun shell (!). We are not talking about a precision rifle round here, just a shotgun shell. To me, the price is simply ridiculous.

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That price is crazy for any round. Would anyone pay $220/box of 20 rounds of rifle ammo?

These prices are double the 50BMG price and 2.5x the cost of Hornady 338 Lapua 250gr rounds.

There is obviously enough people buying them to support the company, and if they weren't a great shell they wouldn't keep winning awards. But to each their own, buy the best you can afford has always been my motto.

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Originally Posted by rf2

I'm not sure I understand what you are saying. The price you mention is more reasonable than what the OP is talking about. The OP is talking about shells that cost $50 plus tax for 5. That's about $11 each for a shotgun shell (!). We are not talking about a precision rifle round here, just a shotgun shell. To me, the price is simply ridiculous.

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the cost is in the shot. we buy similar compounds where I work the cost is up to 7c each. that adds up in a shotgun shell but the superior down range energy in my opinion more than justifies the added cost.

I am not sure of the $10 a piece shells but the hevi shot I buy is $17 per five.

I think the rule to use shotgun (and the limit in shot size) in turkey hunting is to give turkey some chance.

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Originally Posted by bardern

the cost is in the shot. we buy similar compounds where I work the cost is up to 7c each. that adds up in a shotgun shell but the superior down range energy in my opinion more than justifies the added cost.

I am not sure of the $10 a piece shells but the hevi shot I buy is $17 per five.

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Do you know how much heavier the hevi-shot is over lead? I read 0.8 g/cc difference, so with the size difference of the #7 pellet vs #6, it has to be similar to hold the same energy.

Still crazy for $10 a shot.

Actually it is 1.66 g/cc and with the smaller cross section it should hold more energy downrange.

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Originally Posted by OakvilleTrading

I think the rule to use shotgun (and the limit in shot size) in turkey hunting is to give turkey some chance.

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No - the limit on large shot (nothing larger than #4) is a safety issue. The limit on small shot (nothing smaller than #6) is a wounding issue, similar to the minimum size #1 buck rule for deer.

$17 per 5 is reasonable for a premium 'specialty' product, $50 per 5 is not. If people keep supporting this ridiculousness then its only going to get worse.