Grizzly Bear Shooting Video Reignites B.C. Hunting Debate

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Originally Posted by rick_iles

I agree... good post! BUT, whomever put this out to the public needs their arse kicked !!!! I will hazard a guess that griz hunting in BC will be a thing of the past shortly !

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Agreed Rick, I would be fighting for the front of the line with my steel toed work boots on , lol.

Hopefully we we will learn the origin, legitimacy and if there was any malicious intent right from the get go??

Looks like the Grizzlies may have a youtube account;

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Grizzly bear attack near Sparwood, B.C., makes 4 maulings this month

So far in B.C. this year, there have been seven grizzly bear attacks, compared to just three for all of 2014.

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read more: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/britis...acks-1.3227490

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Originally Posted by bushman

Imo , some of the posters on this thread should get down off their high horse and think for a minute or two.

The worst thing about this video is the fact that it went public. Next, do we know the origin of it? The authenticity? Could it have been doctored to illicit the exact negativity that some are giving it?

Take away the snow, the comments , the roll and I doubt we would have ever seen or heard about it!!

To put it in perspective, how many deer, moose, elk bears etcetera have been or will be shot this year that will be worse off than that bear!!

I won't go into detail for fear of offending someone on here or an anti reading the thread, but most will know what I mean!!

A couple of hints though, dogs, flashlights, trailing, tracking, back of the ribs shot placement and so on.

I am pretty sure most of you know what I am saying. And in reality it wasn't all that long before it expired, and it was recovered. I hope that will be the case for all of the aforementioned big game , small game ,waterfowl and upland birds this fall!! We can only hope, but in reality? .........

Take a minute and think back over the years Can anyone say they haven't witnessed, heard of or been part of worse scenarios than the video????

Food for thought??

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If you do some searching around you will find out that the video was edited from the original by the antis.

The Canadian hunters out west seem to have a very different opinion on the video than most guys posting on this thread. That is the reality of Grizzly hunting and very seldom do they drop dead after 1 shot.

So yeah, I agree with you :-)

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Originally Posted by Obi-wanShinobi

If you do some searching around you will find out that the video was edited from the original by the antis.

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How does someone else edit your Youtube Video ?....what everyone saw was the originally video posted by the guy on his Facebook page...(since deleted)

Mike,

I guess we just disagree and if you think I'm a bigger threat to hunting than antis then so be it.
I do what I do and I don't care what anybody else does.

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Originally Posted by Obi-wanShinobi

I do what I do

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But would you take a video and post it for all to see ? ....

Still interested in how you figure the 'anti's altered a Youtube video...?

Firstly I agree the video is hard to watch for many, and that hunting is not everyone's cup of tea. But the Globe and Mail author who wrote an article on this let his emotions get in the way of the facts. Even some on this forum are buying into it.

The Globe and Mail author says that there is no evidence of the 1st shot impacting. Untrue. If you know what you are looking at, the bear is without any doubt hit on the 1st shot.

He also says that the bear is "peppered with gunfire that seems to only have enough power to torture it to death rather than anything resembling a humane death". Actual the first and second shots result in massive blood loss, which is how hunted animals usually die as humanely as possible, and the first shot is likely a pass through and on into the dirt. Hardly underpowered. Honestly, how many would go grizzly hunting without an adequate firearm? And while "peppering" sounds reckless, unskilled and careless, by my count the hunter connects on 4 of 6 shots, most on a moving target, and it seems to be at considerable range. The bear is stone dead in about 80 seconds. I say it is quite likely the bear would have died in the same amount of time if it had only been hit with the first 2 shots.

I am not in favour of trophy hunting. I'll never do it myself. And I'd certainly never be stupid enough to post it for the world on Youtube if I did. But I don't like the facts being misrepresented to the public by journalists. Then the new "reality" becomes - "hunters with poor marksmanship and an underpowered gun torture grizzly to death" -- well it wasn't quite like that now, was it?.

In the era of social media outrage, facts don't matter. By the time the facts are made clear, the initial impact is irreversible.

We are often our own worst enemies. If BC bans grizzly hunting, we can look back at this mess as one more nail in the coffin.

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Originally Posted by Larson

Firstly I agree the video is hard to watch for many, and that hunting is not everyone's cup of tea. But the Globe and Mail author who wrote an article on this let his emotions get in the way of the facts. Even some on this forum are buying into it.

The Globe and Mail author says that there is no evidence of the 1st shot impacting. Untrue. If you know what you are looking at, the bear is without any doubt hit on the 1st shot.

He also says that the bear is "peppered with gunfire that seems to only have enough power to torture it to death rather than anything resembling a humane death". Actual the first and second shots result in massive blood loss, which is how hunted animals usually die as humanely as possible, and the first shot is likely a pass through and on into the dirt. Hardly underpowered. Honestly, how many would go grizzly hunting without an adequate firearm? And while "peppering" sounds reckless, unskilled and careless, by my count the hunter connects on 4 of 6 shots, most on a moving target, and it seems to be at considerable range. The bear is stone dead in about 80 seconds. I say it is quite likely the bear would have died in the same amount of time if it had only been hit with the first 2 shots.

I am not in favour of trophy hunting. I'll never do it myself. And I'd certainly never be stupid enough to post it for the world on Youtube if I did. But I don't like the facts being misrepresented to the public by journalists. Then the new "reality" becomes - "hunters with poor marksmanship and an underpowered gun torture grizzly to death" -- well it wasn't quite like that now, was it?.

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Bang,bang on Larson, no pun intended.

Had the bear made its way into cover after the second shot, I fully believe the outcome of this hunt would be exactly the same. Only difference being,no snow, no barrel roll and no repercussions, and maybe less commentary. They would have walked in after a few minutes and in all likelihood found a DEAD bear. End of story. Unfortunately it didn't play out that way.

If we , as hunters, can't grasp this concept, and get over it and stick together!!! How in the h-ll are we ever going to put on a united front, for all of our sakes, in "all" of our hunting endeavours?????

All to often, it seems to me anyway,there are "some" on our forms that just can't wait to belittle,chastise,ridicule,offer "unsolicited advice" ,with negative overtones and sarcasm. I'm sure I have been guilty of this myself! We have to ask ourselves why?? Can we as a collective group avoid it? Does anyone really care?

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Originally Posted by Larson

Firstly I agree the video is hard to watch for many, and that hunting is not everyone's cup of tea. But the Globe and Mail author who wrote an article on this let his emotions get in the way of the facts. Even some on this forum are buying into it

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You're putting to much weight on the narrative swaying the public's opinion.....the video images are all that are needed for their actions to be judged.

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Originally Posted by buckchaser

In the era of social media outrage, facts don't matter. By the time the facts are made clear, the initial impact is irreversible.

We are often our own worst enemies. If BC bans grizzly hunting, we can look back at this mess as one more nail in the coffin.

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and done by our own, not the anti's....