The Eve of destruction

Quite frankly I don't think "warm & cuddly" makes for an effective CEO/PM. When sitting at the table with Putin or Merkel these leaders won't be asking for a "selfie" with Trudough. They will school him and Canada will look like buffoons. But I wouldn't get too excited yet about his campaign promises. He has a strong majority so doesn't have to do anything he doesn't want for at least 3 years. Cretien signed onto Kyoto, was going to back out of NAFTA and scrap the GST remember. JT's first priority will be to fill the 25 vacant Senate seats that Harper stupidly refused to fill. That would have bought us some time with Conservative stacked Senate. Too late now.
Most gun clubs in Ontario are dominated by the "black gun" community. The guys who have restricted guns and like to play at 3 gun type venues should be very nervous about retaining the right to own this category of guns. Bill Blair the ex police chief of Toronto got elected and he is extremely antigun and will likely be a cabinet Minister and guns will be part of his portfolio. This is why I sold my BAR this summer while it still had value. I bet pistols sell cheap this week on Gunnutz.

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Originally Posted by Sharon

Ahhhhhhhh. :sad:

Trudeau promised to get rid of income splitting for tax purposes. . That has given my husband and I about $3000.00 a year in income tax return .

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Add in the ever rising Hydro and coming inflationary Carbon tax and I bet you will be out closer to $5K every year of disposable income. Many people will have to make hard decisions because of this and make cuts just to tread water. These cuts all cumulatively contribute to shrinking the economy. Not what is needed in fragile times like this. Removing money from taxpayers to fund an ever increasing public sector is now what we have to live with.
The shell game people bought into is frightening. If people think JT's middle class tax cut will leave anything after Wynne claws it all back then I have a deal on Swamp land to offer.

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Originally Posted by terrym

Quite frankly I don't think "warm & cuddly" makes for an effective CEO/PM. When sitting at the table with Putin or Merkel these leaders won't be asking for a "selfie" with Trudough. They will school him and Canada will look like buffoons. But I wouldn't get too excited yet about his campaign promises. He has a strong majority so doesn't have to do anything he doesn't want for at least 3 years. Cretien signed onto Kyoto, was going to back out of NAFTA and scrap the GST remember. JT's first priority will be to fill the 25 vacant Senate seats that Harper stupidly refused to fill. That would have bought us some time with Conservative stacked Senate. Too late now.
Most gun clubs in Ontario are dominated by the "black gun" community. The guys who have restricted guns and like to play at 3 gun type venues should be very nervous about retaining the right to own this category of guns. Bill Blair the ex police chief of Toronto got elected and he is extremely antigun and will likely be a cabinet Minister and guns will be part of his portfolio. This is why I sold my BAR this summer while it still had value. I bet pistols sell cheap this week on Gunnutz.

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Semi's too may start going cheaper... I see an 1100 already posted on here coincidentally.

We will see what promises he can keep and does but it doesn't bode well based on what he has said....

as for future plans, I hoping the "reclassifications" don't include pump shotguns and "buy backs" like Australia, costs of exporting my grandfathers 100+ year old pump gun look like they are very high and my cousin isn't interested now. I plan on checking with other relatives.

As for next year.... do you think it will be single shot only or they still might allow double barrels?
http://www.stoegerindustries.com/condor-supreme-shotgun Not a fan of the single trigger so does anyone know if they are any good?

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Originally Posted by mosquito

As for next year.... do you think it will be single shot only or they still might allow double barrels?
http://www.stoegerindustries.com/condor-supreme-shotgun Not a fan of the single trigger so does anyone know if they are any good?

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The wording will be crucial. Many double barrelled shotguns are in fact "self Arming" in that the recoil of the first shot arms the second hammer mechanism so in theory many O/U and SxS guns could be considered the same as a semi auto. I still own a 7600 pump .308 deer rifle which has a removable magazine and that one scares me. I can see legislation taking in thos as well. I also own a semi Benelli shotgun but not being high capacity magazine capable might slip through. Dunno.
The other thing is many countries restrict the total amount of guns one can own. I think Sweden is 6 only. The bureaucrats who will make those calls are antigun and now drunk with majority power.

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Originally Posted by terrym

Add in the ever rising Hydro and coming inflationary Carbon tax and I bet you will be out closer to $5K every year of disposable income. Many people will have to make hard decisions because of this and make cuts just to tread water. These cuts all cumulatively contribute to shrinking the economy. Not what is needed in fragile times like this. Removing money from taxpayers to fund an ever increasing public sector is now what we have to live with.
The shell game people bought into is frightening. If people think JT's middle class tax cut will leave anything after Wynne claws it all back then I have a deal on Swamp land to offer.

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I want to quickly comment on the middle class tax cut the liberals had promised. They promised to raise taxes on the "1%" to give a middle class a tax break but how much do people honestly think the liberals will raise taxes on the "1%" in order for the middle class to see any significant middle class tax break. What a great idea for the people in the middle class until they start to move into the "1%" which they will be subjected to this "Robin Hood Tax". (I put 1% in quotations because it is hasn't been defined to my knowledge and could include anyone)

China is beating it's chest about resources under the arctic circle. Anyone think JT has the chest hair to back them off?

How about our neighbours to the south? Right now, it looks like Trump has a decent chance to get the GOP nod and quiet possibly be the next president of the US. How is Trudeau going to handle this blowhard? Anyone?

Dyth

I predict both China and Russia are drilling in our Arctic borders within 12 months. JT will be useless in this conflict but it is coming quickly. My feeling is nobody should even think of oil extraction in the Arctic until we have exhausted every other potential source of energy. The Chinese have no moral compass and would do irreversible damage in that fragile environment.
There is an enormous difference in winning an election of mostly uninformed spoiled Westerners and dealing with world power dictators who have people executed for dissent. Different playbook.

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Originally Posted by Dythbringer

I want to quickly comment on the middle class tax cut the liberals had promised. They promised to raise taxes on the "1%" to give a middle class a tax break but how much do people honestly think the liberals will raise taxes on the "1%" in order for the middle class to see any significant middle class tax break. What a great idea for the people in the middle class until they start to move into the "1%" which they will be subjected to this "Robin Hood Tax". (I put 1% in quotations because it is hasn't been defined to my knowledge and could include anyone)

China is beating it's chest about resources under the arctic circle. Anyone think JT has the chest hair to back them off?

How about our neighbours to the south? Right now, it looks like Trump has a decent chance to get the GOP nod and quiet possibly be the next president of the US. How is Trudeau going to handle this blowhard? Anyone?

Dyth

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Good points all around. Re taxing the "1%". I think we all know BS when we see it. People complain that all politicians are liars and then we reward the liars with a majority. Canadian voters can't handle the truth.

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Originally Posted by fishermccann

It is over boys,.......... I can hear your complaining for the next 4 years already. I guess 70% of the people must know what they want , or better yet , what they don't want..

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I guess the same points that have been tossed around the past 4 years still apply. This sweeping majority was elected by 27% of eligible Canadian Voters, but the Liberal majority received a smaller percent of the vote than the previous 'illegitimate' Conservative majority. There was only a difference of 5.5% of possible eligible votes cast between the Liberal and the Conservative parties.

So, how fast will we see the ball start rolling on proportional representation?

The left do a wonderful job of conning voters. This Robin Hood syndrome is laughable. They hate the wealthy and say they don't pay enough taxes. A guy making $300k and paying $100k in taxes pays 5-10 times what the average Canadian pays yet really doesn't get anything more for the dollars paid. They don't drive on better roads, jump the Que for health care and typically spend more on services like education etc. So no, they do not rob the little people they actually subsidize them massively already. Trudough is a trust fund baby who won the DNA lottery with his name. If his name was Smith or Bergeron or Lee he would have never made it as party leader given his thin resume. Once again the Conservatives have shown how poor they are at campaigning. They did a pathetic job and given their financial advantage this should have never happened like this. We lost. They won. This is democracy, hopefully JT and Wynne screw up enough to at least finally dump that crooked witch next time.

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Originally Posted by mooboy76

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So, how fast will we see the ball start rolling on proportional representation?

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With a majority? LoL ! don't hold your breath on that one. Losers gripe and winners run with it.