Toronto Dog Bite Statistics

Again Mike.. I agree.. but I didn't buy this dog from a backyard breeder. these people don't breed for profit.. they bred this littler to keep the genetics of Del Lupo Nero and Von Den Wolfen alive in canada.

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Originally Posted by Miller97

Agreed on the whole milan point but I don't see how German Shepherds get brought into the mix.. It has alot also to do with genetics.. My GSD is from a working line in germany with many schutzhund titles and there are a few in the litter that have "weaker" aggression drives than mine. His father is by far one of the most driven dogs in term of "aggression" when hitting a bite sleeve. While I see your point I feel it should also be mentioned about the genetics and bloodlines.. if you can trace them.

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When we talk about one breed or another testing higher for aggression, we are of course talking about an average. There is a fair amount of variation within the breed(s) also.

I posted a link in the main dog forum a little while back to a paper on variability in impulsivity in working vs. non-working border collies as compared to Labs, which speaks to your point. The same trend for Labs to be less impulsive than BCs is seen in non-working and working lines, but within-breed variability in non-working lines is large enough to make the difference statistically irrelevant. In working lines the variability is minimal and so the difference in impulsivity is clear. Breeding makes a significant difference.

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Originally Posted by Miller97

but I didn't buy this dog from a backyard breeder. these people don't breed for profit.

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just to clarify, those dogs in the KC Best of Breed video are not from 'backyard' puppy mills...they are from what is considered the top breeders of GSD's in the world.

Realized that after posting.. but unless it comes from germany with a schutzhund title and working lines with a SG/V rating from the WUSV.. It means absolutely nothing to me.