Migratory game bird licence

not trying to add to the "aggression" but I would strongly advise against challenger shells for waterfowl. my friend and i split a flat of 3" #2 challengers a few seasons ago. we both multiple times centered patterns on a crippled duck within 30 yds, and the duck just kept swimming didnt really even flinch. i did kill a few with those shells, but when you have a duck sitting right in front of you at a known range, where its easy to see where your pattern went, and the duck keeps on swimming, there is something seriously wrong, and this happened many times. this may have been a bad batch, but it left a bad taste in my mouth for sure. it was like the shot didnt have any power.

i have yet to pattern waterfowl loads in my new gun, but i default to kent fasteel (3" #2 or bb). its kind of a middle of the road ammo for me, not too pricey but reliable enough.
i will try a variety of ammos this summer and see what works best with my new choke and gun.
just my thoughts.

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Originally Posted by bowj

not trying to add to the "aggression" but I would strongly advise against challenger shells for waterfowl. my friend and i split a flat of 3" #2 challengers a few seasons ago. we both multiple times centered patterns on a crippled duck within 30 yds, and the duck just kept swimming didnt really even flinch. i did kill a few with those shells, but when you have a duck sitting right in front of you at a known range, where its easy to see where your pattern went, and the duck keeps on swimming, there is something seriously wrong, and this happened many times. this may have been a bad batch, but it left a bad taste in my mouth for sure. it was like the shot didnt have any power.

i have yet to pattern waterfowl loads in my new gun, but i default to kent fasteel (3" #2 or bb). its kind of a middle of the road ammo for me, not too pricey but reliable enough.
i will try a variety of ammos this summer and see what works best with my new choke and gun.
just my thoughts.

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No worries Bowj. We have all had our experiences with different ammunition and firearms. I have had success with Challenger is all I am saying. I've used plenty of Kent in my 20 ga SX3 to great effect as well. They make exceptional ammunition for the price point in my opinion,. I suppose the whole point of my post is that you do not need $30 boxes of shells with fancy shaped shot to kill fowl and that you don't necessarily need 3" or 3.5" either.

I've had the same issues with blown patterns when using turkey loads. In one gun the load has a perfect pattern with a nice dense core; take the same load in a different gun and you might have a blown pattern.

I stand corrected. Remington 878 Automaster semi-automatic shotgun, got it That Hunting and Fishing Store here is Ottawa on consignment.

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Originally Posted by jaycee

I think you are very confused as to what brand of shotgun you are using:confused: , Winchester did not ever make a model "878 " shot gun, an "878" is Made by Remington .

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I used Kent for the first time last year..it has a noticeable difference in punch then a similar shell.

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Originally Posted by bowj

not trying to add to the "aggression" but I would strongly advise against challenger shells for waterfowl. my friend and i split a flat of 3" #2 challengers a few seasons ago. we both multiple times centered patterns on a crippled duck within 30 yds, and the duck just kept swimming didnt really even flinch. i did kill a few with those shells, but when you have a duck sitting right in front of you at a known range, where its easy to see where your pattern went, and the duck keeps on swimming, there is something seriously wrong, and this happened many times. this may have been a bad batch, but it left a bad taste in my mouth for sure. it was like the shot didnt have any power.

i have yet to pattern waterfowl loads in my new gun, but i default to kent fasteel (3" #2 or bb). its kind of a middle of the road ammo for me, not too pricey but reliable enough.
i will try a variety of ammos this summer and see what works best with my new choke and gun.
just my thoughts.

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are we talking shells or bird season here? anyone got a link to the 2016-17 regs, I cant find them online somehow.

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Originally Posted by Troutkiller

are we talking shells or bird season here? anyone got a link to the 2016-17 regs, I cant find them online somehow.

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As always and forever to come the current year migratory season is not posted till August 1.

You always need to know what patterns well with your gun, challenger works well in my gun, as do cheap Winchester Super X, the worst patterning ammo so far has been 3.5in Black Cloud, I am happy that the cheap stuff patterns well and kills ducks and geese no problem.

I use the Winchester Super X as well, they seem to pattern well in my Mossy 535.

For Geese I use the 3.5

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Originally Posted by Fox

You always need to know what patterns well with your gun, challenger works well in my gun, as do cheap Winchester Super X, the worst patterning ammo so far has been 3.5in Black Cloud, I am happy that the cheap stuff patterns well and kills ducks and geese no problem.

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ok cool my buddy was over looking at the regs on his phone planning early goose, I assumed he had the new regs.
thanks finsfurfeathers

Just got my stamp and migratory license online. Thank you guys for the pointer. Can not wait