Loose Dogs chasing wildlife problems

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Originally Posted by welsh

Duckguy is actually correct ... the powers of search COs enjoy come from the laws they enforce, not from their position as COs. An OPP officer has the same powers with respect to those laws.

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As do all police officers in Ontario. All police officers in Ontario are also Conservation Officers as defined in the FWCA. Therefore, CO's do not have more authority than Police Officers, with the exception of a few Federal Regulations.

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

Contact the neighbors,directly. Warn them if their dogs are seen again,they'll be reported to the by-law office. Every municipality in Ontario has dogs running at large and leash by-laws. Fines are nothing to sneeze at. They're damn expensive in most cases.




Absolutely legal in defense of livestock,BUT,they're better be livestock on your property or you'll find yourself in serious trouble if you can't defend your actions.




Oh,yes they do. While enforcing the FWCA,any Police Constable or CO (among other wildlife and fisheries officers)may enter upon and search any property,building or vehicle,without a warrant where R&PG exists that a FWCA offense has,is or is about to be or to prevent an offense from being committed.

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Dwellings being the exception ! Warrants are required.

"When dogs may be killed

2. Any person may kill a dog,
(a) that is found killing or injuring livestock or poultry;
(b) Repealed: 2002, c. 17, Sched. F, Table.
(c) that is found straying at any time, and not under proper control, upon premises where livestock or poultry are habitually kept. R.S.O. 1990, c. L.24, s. 2; 2002, c. 17, Sched. F, Table."

Which does not apply to dogs chasing deer, unless the dogs happen to chase deer on premises where livestock or poultry are habitually kept.

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Originally Posted by JoePa

Here's your options - SSS - catch the dogs - let the dogs kill the deer - take your pick -

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Originally Posted by johny

For once, I agree with JoePA
SSS
Shoot, shovel, shut up.

As much as many of us love our dogs.... dogs running on private property are a huge nuisance to wild life.
SSS
End of problem.

Dogs are a dime a dozen.
If you don't believe that, then you are probably a responsible owner who keeps their dog under control and therefore close to home.

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We don't encourage the killing of dogs or other animals illegally on this site. Please keep this in mind (refer to rule #1 of forum rules). Best alternative is to contact the authorities to report it and if possible get the dogs on video so if the owners deny it you have proof to back it up.

Hopefully you find a solution to the issue.

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Originally Posted by CalTek

We don't encourage the killing of dogs or other animals illegally on this site. Please keep this in mind (refer to rule #1 of forum rules). Best alternative is to contact the authorities to report it and if possible get the dogs on video so if the owners deny it you have proof to back it up.

Hopefully you find a solution to the issue.

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There is no solution to this issue. I brought this issue up earlier in a much maligned post that i stopped reading and commenting on after a while, regarding trespassing hunting dogs that run animals outside their property lines.
You really have no recourse... Maybe i should buy a chicken or two, then all of a sudden i'm allowed to defend my property legally. Because i don't own a chicken i can't? dogs are allowed to run deer, bear, moose and all manner of critter all over my properties endangering me and my family as well as others. (running animals on to roads in front of cars, and running bears around my homes)
i've dealt with police over the issue, and as with most things, they are stuck giving some warnings... Until something terrible happens, nothing will happen... I am VERY pro-police, this is not a knock on them, what are they going to do really, when brought into these situations.... enough complaints, and what? i can get some kind of restraining order? still won't keep the dogs away... maybe if i complain for a decade they might lose the ability to own pets??? that's not my aim either. and i don't want to start shooting dogs. but i've had a bear run in a blur within 15 feet of me on my 50 acre property being run by hounds in deer season... it's not safe. it's not the dogs fault
No one can control a dog running animals... unless some kind of wireless leash is invented, then these problems can't be solved in a way that will result in a "win/win."
Buy a chicken.... it's the only legal way to defend your property apparently.

I always have to laugh on how many people think they know the law . lol The never ending song.

I have never been able to nail down 100% what the law was in Ontario but when I worked in the wood in NS we were told to kill any lose dogs we saw running lose and that was from the MNR. I would imagine things have changed these days as most people don't care if Fifi kills a deer only if a hunter does.

OK, so many seem to support shooting dogs that come on their property, how about cats? I have several bird feeders for the birds, peanut feeders for the squirrels and chipmunks, and I spend a lot on seed and peanuts because I enjoy the birds and chipmunks.
The neighbour cats comes over, right up onto my porch, and hides there to catch and kill birds, squirrels, and chipmunks. I have also seen this same cat dragging bunnies home.
So do I get the 12 gauge out and blast all nine lives out of the cat? I live in the city, they have a no discharge bylaw, am I exempt as I am protecting my livestock? After all, even though I am in the city, my lot is actually zoned multi use, residential and agricultural.
My plans for this year are to actually put in a chicken coop, bylaws say no, but zoning says I can!

If it's not my neighbors cat and I don't know who it belongs to and it's bothering my hens they sometimes disappear.

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Originally Posted by PaulR

OK, so many seem to support shooting dogs that come on their property, how about cats? I have several bird feeders for the birds, peanut feeders for the squirrels and chipmunks, and I spend a lot on seed and peanuts because I enjoy the birds and chipmunks.
The neighbour cats comes over, right up onto my porch, and hides there to catch and kill birds, squirrels, and chipmunks. I have also seen this same cat dragging bunnies home.
So do I get the 12 gauge out and blast all nine lives out of the cat? I live in the city, they have a no discharge bylaw, am I exempt as I am protecting my livestock? After all, even though I am in the city, my lot is actually zoned multi use, residential and agricultural.
My plans for this year are to actually put in a chicken coop, bylaws say no, but zoning says I can!

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What breed of chickens??

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Originally Posted by PaulR

OK, so many seem to support shooting dogs that come on their property, how about cats? I have several bird feeders for the birds, peanut feeders for the squirrels and chipmunks, and I spend a lot on seed and peanuts because I enjoy the birds and chipmunks.
The neighbour cats comes over, right up onto my porch, and hides there to catch and kill birds, squirrels, and chipmunks. I have also seen this same cat dragging bunnies home.
So do I get the 12 gauge out and blast all nine lives out of the cat? I live in the city, they have a no discharge bylaw, am I exempt as I am protecting my livestock? After all, even though I am in the city, my lot is actually zoned multi use, residential and agricultural.
My plans for this year are to actually put in a chicken coop, bylaws say no, but zoning says I can!

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