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....and that, of course is the price you pay. However, when one considers the fact that most organized townships will require a building with a minimum 700 sqFt, plus septic, plus, plus...Quote:
Originally Posted by STUBBLE BUM
Taking a little time to erect a cheap 16' x16' cabin, using re-purposed building materials, even if it burned, would still be far cheaper to do.
Heck of a lot more involved than first glance...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushmoose
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Building permits are not issued in unorganized townships, as there is no municipal authority to do so. There are, however, unorganized townships that are subject to Minister's Zoning Orders or Zoning by-laws and therefore, "Letters of Conformity" or "Zoning Conformity Permits" would be required in these townships, prior to any development or construction taking place. Citizens owning properties in unincorporated areas should call the Ministry of Municipal Affairs and Housing, Municipal Services Office, in their area for more information. The Ministry of Natural Resources may also need to be consulted with respect to permits required, as would the Ministry of Transportation if development is proposed on or near a highway. Septic system approvals would need to be obtained from the local health unit or conservation authority.
read more: http://www.mah.gov.on.ca/Page2103.aspxQuote:
The Building Code Act, 1992 is applicable to all lands, whether in municipalities or in unincorporated areas. This applies to all buildings, whether or not a permit has been issued or applied for, and also where a person is exempt from the requirement to obtain a permit (i.e. for the construction of buildings other than sewage system, in unorganized territory).
This the reason why I'm a big fan of portable camps on Crown land. When the hunt's over,knock it down and take it home or stack and wrap and leave it in place. It's a lot less hassle and ecologically sound.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
Lots of BS to build a camp in many townships. If you purchase a land with a existing building, it's yours. What people are doing I have noticed is purchasing wooded properties, saying ta hell with permits. Banging up a small cabin and selling them before the town finds out. The new owner keeps cabin, old owner gets paid and moves on to another property to flip.
....which is kind of what I was doing for all those years. Although in the case of most of the townships, I did have a few emails as record, indicating that they had no issue with it, unless complaint was filed.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
The longer I live the more this is true...there is no proactive enforcement to ensure the by-laws are followed, all it takes is one busy body :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluebulldog
I was surprised it is also the policy of the MNR here...the guy in charge told me they are now 'reactive enforcement'..will only show up if there is a complaint.
I have a friend who bought some land that another land owner considered his for a number of years. You had to get on an ATV and drive about 5km back into the bush off the 2 track road you needed a 4x4 to get down just to get to the cabin location. These friends of mine knew what was coming, they submitted plans and got a permit, the inspector was a friend of theirs and when going in for the inspection asked them why they bothered with a permit so far back into the bush. 2 weeks later the inspector called them up and said that as expected a complaint was filed for illegal building, the guy who owns 5 acres on this 2 track road was trying to get them fined or have the cabin torn down, probably in retribution for buying land and telling him he was no longer allowed to trespass on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluebulldog
You never know who may complain, this is why I checked my zoning before buying, just because the existing neighbour does not have a problem with it does not mean the next will not.
Case in point, $ 5000.00 deposit(refundable upon CBO sign off) 300+ permit, 87.50 each time inspector arrives.
All for a set of steps greater than 24" above grade while across the street a driveway, retaining wall, armor stone steps and a 6,000 dollar deck was built without permits and diagonally across from me, the same contractor installed driveway, retaining wall, and about a 15,000 dollar beck across the whole front of a house and @12 ft height.
Easy money to be made inside the town without the trouble of permits, etc. but getting caught can be problematic.
You can also "store" an old rv trailer or office trailer on the property. Day use only of course... (wink, wink).
No one is watching if you are there or not if you are in the middle of the Bush. If you are sufficiently discreet.
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Good luck with this. One of our camp neighbours had a trailer on his bush lot for barely a month before he was ordered to remove it, literally out in the middle of no where. It was well over 100m off the road not bothering anyone and yet someone trespassed to find it then called the town on him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rimfire905