Well... Justin made a fool of hiself again after getting Trump ticked off....

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Originally Posted by mosquito

but as mentioned above just look at OUR food imports...

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I think you have misread what I wrote.

Only about 20% of Canada's imported food comes from the US. Even if the US decides to not sell that 20% to us, Mexico, central and south America countries can cover the differences and make up the shortages in about six months or less. The freight would still be unloaded from ships at Mexican ports, moved to the Warehouses in Southern TX, AZ, CA and be put on trucks heading to Canada. The US can not stop the bonded In-transit loads of food from traveling across the country to and FROM Canada. The load of pork I was talking about before was going to China, but gets shipped there out of Mexico.

I could tell you things about food that would have you scratching your head for days. They take Florida oranges to California to make juice, and California oranges to Florida to eat. Sounds stupid right? Well it is till you learn that the type of oranges grown in Florida and the oranges grown in California are two different subspecies of oranges and cross pollination between them could destroy the crops in both states.

Oh and by the way all the chicken nuggets sold at wendy's, Burger King, McDonald's, etc all come out of the same three or four plants in North America.

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Originally Posted by LoR

If the Liberals truly want to do something, hit them where it hurts. In the nuts. If theres one thing I learned in life as a young kid. Dont strat them, finish them.

Cut off the flow of Oil, Hydro and fresh water...Then watch the American populace scream for Trumps head.

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.... and just how would we do that? Hydro we do sell at a loss to them in Ontario to a few states, fresh water.... I don't even want to try and understand how you came up with that one.... Oil ..... with the fracking they are almost stand alone now and even starting to export... in Canada we import too, millions of gallons of Saudi etc. oil. The imbecile PM we have made sure that we are stuck still buying it too!

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Originally Posted by Snowwalker

I think you have misread what I wrote.

Only about 20% of Canada's imported food comes from the US. Even if the US decides to not sell that 20% to us, Mexico, central and south America countries can cover the differences and make up the shortages in about six months or less. The freight would still be unloaded from ships at Mexican ports, moved to the Warehouses in Southern TX, AZ, CA and be put on trucks heading to Canada. The US can not stop the bonded In-transit loads of food from traveling across the country to and FROM Canada. The load of pork I was talking about before was going to China, but gets shipped there out of Mexico.

I could tell you things about food that would have you scratching your head for days. They take Florida oranges to California to make juice, and California oranges to Florida to eat. Sounds stupid right? Well it is till you learn that the type of oranges grown in Florida and the oranges grown in California are two different subspecies of oranges and cross pollination between them could destroy the crops in both states.

Oh and by the way all the chicken nuggets sold at wendy's, Burger King, McDonald's, etc all come out of the same three or four plants in North America.

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80%??? I read it but you didn't seem to read, I said "Over 80% of our exports go to the US..."

As for imports you are way way off!

Imports of food into Canada by country, 2007
https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/...0/t240-eng.htm

Country Millions, % and rank
United States..............$13,542.5 .......57.1% 1
Mexico............................$906.6 .......3.8% 2
China............................ $799.0 .......3.4% 3
Italy............................ $691.6 .......2.9% 4

Doesn't seem to be alot of imports from other sources .... to say in 6 month then can export 10X+ ... anyone for $140 head of lettuce and $130 for a couple oranges? .... and in those 6 months????? I would guess you know little about agricultural practices and farming!

So not the 80% you imagined me saying but with increasing trade deficits.... probably well over 60%
https://www.ctvnews.ca/business/stat...arch-1.3913323

Hence why JBen asked to have his account deleted...I see that not much has changed.

Don’t have the time to waste on google, parsing things that fit “my narrative” the way you do Mosquito. Question. When you started this thread why didn’t you include a link to Doug Ford “standing should to shoulder with JT”. Could it be because that didn’t fit the narrative?

So quick bullets will need to suffice.

1) whether Ontario sells it at a loss is immataerial. The eastern seaboard will still go black. Don’t you understand that “in a fight” you have to expect “losses”...

Quebec though sells at a profit. Neither here nor there, as the $ means jack. Unplugging them does

Water:
Nestles (and more but you are like the far left zealots)

Oil
Canada is the worlds 4th largest oil producer. We supply roughly 15-20% of their demand. Hence our trade surplus, most of our goods are energy.............

We have a fairly large goods surplus. Two minutes in google will confirm that.

They have a large services surplus.....in short we export far more “goods”, they export far more services.

Net they have an 8b surplus

So once we kick where it hurts. Where will they turn?.

The Mid East?
Lol!!!’ opec will tighten the vise in all likelihood.

And the mighty US military will be “empty” in weeks, let alone the cars on the road

You might also want to understand that due to accounting differences

They, the US, show our goods surplus......as even smaller than we do...

It’s always helpful imo, to gain perspective (right word?) from the “other side”...be it a country, be it reading both L and R wing economist. Finding where they agree/overlap, etc

https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/americas/canada

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Mosquito.

A very large percentage of your 57.1% comes from Farms in Mexico owned by large US Corporations. The Farm's produce and inspection standards all comply with USDA, and is then trucked into warehouses in AZ, CA, or TX. As for the six months to increase production, they grow all year.

If the only way to sell to Canada is for the Farms in Mexico to become Mexican, ownership will be transferred pretty darm quick.

Hence they accounting difference .

Believe it or not I try very hard to avoid reading economic news and data these days. That’s an old life

If I recall correctly. We record and count data on flow through goods. Things that originate outside the US, but arrive here via the US.

A lot ( I forget the percentage) of our goods are energy and raw materials.

Cut off Hydro and oil, and more than their cars tanks, boats, planes will grind to a halt. And if I had to bet, see a chance to really hurt them, OPEC will squeeze the vice on their nuts hard.

Their economy will be toast in weeks if not days.

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Originally Posted by LoR

If the Liberals truly want to do something, hit them where it hurts. In the nuts. If theres one thing I learned in life as a young kid. Dont strat them, finish them.

Cut off the flow of Oil, Hydro and fresh water...Then watch the American populace scream for Trumps head.

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While I would absolutely love to cut oil, hydro and water off, it would only hurt the American people and could quite possibly rally them around Trump. I don't think we back the American people into a corner, history has shown that is a bad idea to do so. With the exception of the rabid Trump supporters, who think the world is screwing them, I think the majority of Americans don't like these tariffs and don't want this to escalate any further (which Trump is warning it could).

LoR , welcome back. If it upsets you to participate.....don't. It is the same old same old. You have to do what's best for you.

I think this is a pretty good analysis of the situation. Trudeau is a guppy trying to deal with a shark. Trudeau's grandstanding may win him some temporary support from shortsighted individuals but if this continues it will cost us all dearly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwE_...ature=youtu.be