Advice needed

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Originally Posted by Snowwalker

Your post got quoted along with One from Gun nut that I was replying to. I must have touched the multi quote button on your post before I hit the reply on his.. small screens and big thumbs

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Thanx Snowwalker,appreciate it...........i know what you mean by small screens and big thumbs........:D:D:D

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

I think Gun Nut is simply being honest and frankly I am in the same boat as him when it comes to hitting a running deer. When I hunted over dogs I did not have a scope on my old 742 and did not get much practice trying to hit a running deer as the camp did not manage to push any number of deer on that 800 acre lot, in which event I probably had no business even trying to hunt this way,I had not practiced on a target as Trimmer has eluded to.

Now I can tell you that even listening to the hounds running deer with another local gang, the Numerous shoots fired at the deer by numbers of hunters indicates to me
there are plenty of hunters out there who were just like me.

I then got my own place, I sit over a bait pile, food plot that Rick eludes to and kill my standing deer with my now scoped rifle.

From my experience with hunting gangs over the past 35 years I would say that one or two hunters out of ten would be proficient in hitting a rolling tire target mentioned by Trimmer, MAYBE there are other gangs out there that have real good markspeople in them with higher number of great shooters but IMHO I doubt it.

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Maybe a low 1-4X scope or a reddot scope and some practice would change your mind. Not everyone who hunts with dogs or semi autos are unethical.

Hitting running game is a hard skill to learn. All your life you were taught to hit by aiming "at" the target, and now you are trying to hit by aiming where you "think" it will be later.

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Originally Posted by canadaman30

Maybe a low 1-4X scope or a reddot scope and some practice would change your mind. Not everyone who hunts with dogs or semi autos are unethical.

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How about a red dot on a shotgun, and practice shooting bouncing rabbit clays at the range. Develop the lead and then switch to a rifle and rolling tire with a target center.

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Originally Posted by Snowwalker

How about a red dot on a shotgun, and practice shooting bouncing rabbit clays at the range. Develop the lead and then switch to a rifle and rolling tire with a target center.

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Red dots work well with both eyes open. I have a Bushnell TRS-25 on my Marlin 1895 mounted forward over the breech.

Thanks again for everyone’s help. I should have clarified the right eye is useless. Likely a lot of safe deer around me lol.

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Originally Posted by Snowwalker

Hitting running game is a hard skill to learn. All your life you were taught to hit by aiming "at" the target, and now you are trying to hit by aiming where you "think" it will be later.

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That is what wing shooting with a shotgun is "all about " or shooting " flying " as the British call it .

Gilroy, sometimes dogs can run more than one deer, or boar as seen here.
Gunnut, I guess this is the "spray and pray" many on here speak about, or maybe not because he's using a bolt gun not a semi

https://youtu.be/7ob0fgc0I7A

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Originally Posted by canadaman30

Gilroy, sometimes dogs can run more than one deer, or boar as seen here.
Gunnut, I guess this is the "spray and pray" many on here speak about, or maybe not because he's using a bolt gun not a semi

https://youtu.be/7ob0fgc0I7A

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Well thanks for sharing that exceptional video with a great shooter but from my experience in camps this type of guy would be a rare find. I think some of the "old timers" who hunted deer over hounds for decades and who maybe had some previous military experience could pull of this type of shooting.The old Scottish "gillies" and German gamekeeper,s in the First World War and probably the Second filled the rank,s for snipers.But maybe the very best was our own Aboriginal shooter from here in Ontario by the name of Francis Pegahmagabow with his 378 kills in WW1 https://www.cbc.ca/2017/canadathesto...dier-1.4083644

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Well thanks for sharing that exceptional video with a great shooter but from my experience in camps this type of guy would be a rare find. I think some of the "old timers" who hunted deer over hounds for decades and who maybe had some previous military experience could pull of this type of shooting.The old Scottish "gillies" and German gamekeeper,s in the First World War and probably the Second filled the rank,s for snipers.But maybe the very best was our own Aboriginal shooter from here in Ontario by the name of Francis Pegahmagabow with his 378 kills in WW1 https://www.cbc.ca/2017/canadathesto...dier-1.4083644

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My dad is one of the guys that was a regular for shooting deer on a full run, but that was very rare when we used to use dogs. When hunting with dogs most of the deer kept stopping and looking back, moving ahead a bit then stopping and looking back, ideally you shoot them like that but you can still become proficient shooting moving targets.

I used to jump rabbits all the time, they are moving and moving fast, sure you have a shotgun but you still have to hit it.

You need to level on the deer and swing through the same as a shot on grouse or rabbits but most people stop and bang, shooting back or behind. I hunted in that camp with dogs for more than 10 years but never had one run by dogs to me, not one that I had a safe shot at but my dad would still put them down.

The comment on 1 in 10, probably accurate, my dad was the guy who always got them with good shots on running deer, another guy did ok before I started hunting with them but when he got rid of his bolt for a pump I think he missed every running deer. My dad bought 1 gun back in the late 70s early 80s, a pump 30-06 and that is still his deer gun, an extension of him and always hits where he aims, better on game than on the range too, ha ha, never saw a 1in group when he shot but a deers lungs are way more than 1in in diameter.

Back to the OP, if you get a 30-30 and shoot left handed get a top eject, an older win 94, this way you will not have the brass in your face but this would be a peep sight or open sight option.

Other left hand guns that are not specifically left handed are the pumps and semis but again, you have the brass flying by your face.

I have a cousin that is left eye dominant and right handed, used to shoot with his left eye holding the gun right handed, was awkward looking, I tried to teach him how to shoot left handed but he could not figure it out.