Trespassers

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Originally Posted by Horridfiber101

We had that exact experience.
A phone call was made to the landowner in order to enter the neighbors property and fetch the moose.
Bush Moose comments- Seems a huge gray area to just walk on a property and say you are looking for a downed animal..
Would be a great learning experience to have that clarified within a statute somewhere if in fact you can legally trespass to retrieve an animal.

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No you cannot, you need to obtain permission...

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Originally Posted by Horridfiber101

We had that exact experience.
A phone call was made to the landowner in order to enter the neighbors property and fetch the moose.
Bush Moose comments- Seems a huge gray area to just walk on a property and say you are looking for a downed animal..
Would be a great learning experience to have that clarified within a statute somewhere if in fact you can legally trespass to retrieve an animal.

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My CO explained it to me this way you shot a animal it expired on my property Landowner could call into MNR office claim it the same way as a road kill. Prick move by the land owner but legal

You show up on landowners door step with a co wanting to retrieve animal landowner could claim it
Suggest perhaps you where trespassing when you shot said animal you better know exactly spot you and the animal where when you shot it
Again real prick move by land owner best to seek retrieval permission from neighbour properties



“When government becomes a law breaker, it breeds contempt for law”

Having read all the feedback on the pretty much useless existing fine terms under the TPA , I truly do admire how the unstable local Irish Pikey farmers handle trespassers on their property. When the find the truck hidden in the bush on their rutted-up laneway, locked, they drive by it with an implement attached to the back of their articulated 220 hp cash-cropper tractor. There's usally no side mirrors left, and the entire side of the truck gets raked like tinfoil. Usually something like a packer or a cultivator does the job. Then they pick the truck up by the front bumper, and drag it for close to a kilometer, with the truck's rear diff locked in park. The trespassers find what's left of their vehicle in the ditch, off to the side of the entrance gate. Retaliation by the trespassers is usually a moot point, as the farmer has your plate number, and at least two of his family are local cops that have already looked up your home address. The locals here call it "circumstantial punishment". Some view it as a primitive, and outlandishly harsh way to deal with trespassers but it seems to work OK up in this neck of the woods. Half the locals are directly related to the Black Donnally clan and the name "McCoy" is on an awful lot of the laneway mailboxes.

Back in my law enforcement days,many times trespassing hunters returned to their vehicles to find bullet holes in engine blocks and radiators or a quart of maple syrup poured down the gas tank (usually found when half way home). Chances of finding out who did it were slim to none. Messages were often sent,though,not well,but sent just the same.

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

Back in my law enforcement days,many times trespassing hunters returned to their vehicles to find bullet holes in engine blocks and radiators or a quart of maple syrup poured down the gas tank (usually found when half way home). Chances of finding out who did it were slim to none. Messages were often sent,though,not well,but sent just the same.

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I'm shocked at that errant behavior?

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

Your first sentence is accurate in every province except New Brunswick. They're on a different planet down there when it comes to hunting regulations. I'm not sure what you mean with your last sentence,but, if you mean we aren't allowed to retrieve downed game from private property without permission,you'll be right about that,too. Under every circumstance,no body may enter private property without permission except CO's and Police when in the lawful execution of their duties.

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Originally Posted by fratri

Maybe I didn't word it right but after the OPP talked to the landowner, the landowner went with the advice of the OPP and decided
to post it (no hunting, no trespassing) and not allow anyone to hunt his property...

As far as retrieving game on private property, you are right, you can't do that without permission either...

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To both of you fellas, I was in my stand using my phone, so couldnt enunciate proper? Hell, I'm at the hunt cabin now on my laptop and enunciating properly isnt working out so well?
Trimmer, I was saying that retrieving downed or wounded game from private property is a big no no without permission. Ok, this point settled.

Fratri, I understand what you were trying to say. My response wasnt clear perhaps due to this "enunciating" thing again? Damn phones?

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Originally Posted by Bushmoose

I was in my stand using my phone, so couldnt enunciate proper? Hell, I'm at the hunt cabin now on my laptop

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I thought you were up north? Can't be true if you have cell coverage ;););)

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Originally Posted by Bushmoose

Fratri, posting "no hunting" signs on property, then not being able to hunt on it, is a myth. Not sure where that idea originated, but it's right up there with the nonsense of retrieving game on private land without landowners permission.

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you really need to read page 5 (posting of land) in the N.B. hunting regulations. Your statement is totally wrong.

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Originally Posted by Greenhorn

you really need to read page 5 (posting of land) in the N.B. hunting regulations. Your statement is totally wrong.

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Since this forum is owned and moderated by ONTARIO Out of Doors magazine, contributed to, for the most part, from folks hunting and fishing here in ONTARIO, it just never occurred to me to include N. B. in my statement? You'll probably notice that I also did not include Zimbabwe, Bangladesh, Finland, China and a host of other countries in my statement? Perhaps because most of the readership and contributors on this forum are from ONTARIO, discussing outdoor things that happen here in ONTARIO. What was I thinking?:confused:

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Originally Posted by Bushmoose

Since this forum is owned and moderated by ONTARIO Out of Doors magazine, contributed to, for the most part, from folks hunting and fishing here in ONTARIO, it just never occurred to me to include N. B. in my statement? You'll probably notice that I also did not include Zimbabwe, Bangladesh, Finland, China and a host of other countries in my statement? Perhaps because most of the readership and contributors on this forum are from ONTARIO, discussing outdoor things that happen here in ONTARIO. What was I thinking?:confused:

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You beat me to it !!!!