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BTW - the 20" size is not as much as an oddball as it used to be. Not sure about Ford's, but Dodge and GM put them on some fairly plain trucks. And depending on the brand of tires, some 20" tires are about the same price as an 18" of the same model. For the KO2's for example - $18 per tire.
Yep, very common. I believe 19" are more money, but don't quote me on that. Mine are 20's as well, on my Ford.Quote:
Originally Posted by werner.reiche
Are you aware of the people who are on the panels the come up with these reports? That is right, the EXPERTS, that is who works on the science and forces the manufacturers to change their processes when things like the Firestone tire issues occur, they are called EXPERTS for a reason, not "experts". I am speaking of a person who is a court recognized EXPERT who is hired by insurance companies to determine what happened in an accident.Quote:
Originally Posted by last5oh_302
You talk of the date as if it is the only concern, what about a tire that was smashed into a curb, the belts inside can slip but you cannot see it from the outside. What about a tire that was soaked in solvent, you would never know that this has occurred when looking at them.
Just the date means nothing, I trust the EXPERT and have had a number of conversations in the last few years about tires, wear and use, I trust him over anything you would ever say on the matter but to say an experts "opinion" is like telling an engineer that says the building will not fall because it is just his "opinion", this is their job and their liability.
In the last few years, how many bridges, buildings have collapsed even thought they were previously examined and deemed safe by the "expert engineers ".Quote:
Just the date means nothing, I trust the EXPERT and have had a number of conversations in the last few years about tires, wear and use, I trust him over anything you would ever say on the matter but to say an experts "opinion" is like telling an engineer that says the building will not fall because it is just his "opinion", this is their job and their liability.
Mark Twain said this of an expert " An ordinary guy from another town "
Will Rogers said " A man 50 miles from here with a briefcase "
This by author unknown, "A person that has made every possible mistake within his/her field ".
I have seen belts break in New tires and old ones. On my cars I have been installing used ties for the past 15 years and never had one go bad. However when I buy used ones I carefully look them over. On average I pay 20 bucks a tire and usually they have a max maybe 10 - 20 K on them. Put it this way I easily get 80,000 on my tires. I have never worried about expiry dates.
The truck on the other hand will at times be out in the middle of no place and since those tires will be on there for 5 - 10 years I plan to buy new.
Yes, I'm aware. I spend a fair amount of time on the stand in court giving evidence in relation to charges based on mechanical defects. Does that make me an expert?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
You're the one that said date doesn't mean that much according to your expert's "feelings". Can't imagine he'd have much credibility based on his feelings.
As I said, I'll stick with the experts who actually did studies and have results to prove their findings. Their studies are why dates are stamped on tires, because tires do expire with age.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
I posted a link to some of those studies a couple of posts back. What you decide to do with your, your family's safety, and everyone else that shares the roads with you is your choice.
On my 2011 Ram I’m on my 4th set of tires, Goodyear Wrangler HPs came with it, rode smooth but basically fair weather tires Rib type tread
Then I put on Michelin LTX, nice ride but kinda suck in snow and heavy rain (hydroplane too easy) Rib type tread
Next we’re Goodyear Wilderness AT, aggressive tread lug type, good traction, need to be rotated twice as often (10,000 km) rough ride
Last, my current set, Goodyear Silent Armour, by far the best of the lot. Ride good, a little firm, you’ll notice sharp bumps, aggressive lug type tire, good in snow, but no snowlake. Tread design very similar to the Goodyear ATS of which I have 3 sets on my last truck including 3 years living in Sault Ste. Marie and I loved them.
Bottom line you aware going to spend $1200-$1300 on tires for your truck, trust me, I’ve looked extensively and my preference for the money is the Goodyear Silent Armour
Roe+
Yeah I agree it`s going to be around there unless I see a good sale. I should get about 500 for the old Jimmy and have about 300 in scrap in the back yard so that will actually pay for most of the tires.
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Originally Posted by Roe+
Hey Canadian tire has good year duratracts in sale at 25 percent off.i order mine should be installed tomorow. Came to 1000$ all in.
what size did you get?Quote:
Originally Posted by dutchhunter