When do ethics out weigh the law

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November 11th, 2019, 10:20 AM
Snowwalker

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Originally Posted by kk1

Put the animal out of its misery immediately. Gun, bow, axe,knife, trailer hitch (works well) whatever it takes. Taking the time to call a co, landowner or cops only prolongs the suffering of that animal. If you need to explain that later. There will obviously be evidence of a bad shot. Shoot slugs only, make sure your guns dialed in, know your limits, and NEVER take a marginal shot. I know it happens, but this sort of thing is almost always avoidable.

Slugs don't work in my bow or my buddies X-bow.
November 11th, 2019, 10:24 AM
canadaman30

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Originally Posted by fishfood

The law is the law but then you still have a wasted animal. Again you are leaving it to let the meat spoil. I believe this fine could be more. So I guess you need to figure out what is worse. Shooting after dark or leaving it to spoil.

Take the lesser option as they are both crimes. So basically if you follow the law you now break another and so on. So both options are breaking the laws it is your choice but hear it's a hell of fine to let it spoil. Take your pick your screwed either way.

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Loosing a animal from a bad shot while hunting with a license is not a crime. Not sure where you think that's a crime considering it happens much to often. Discharging a firearm after dark is an offence, loosing an animal from poor shot placement is not. Harvesting an animal and then allowing it to rot is an offence, and is not the same as loosing wounded game.
November 11th, 2019, 10:40 AM
Dythbringer

So the scenario is we have a wounded animal on a shot which was wasn't very good which we have trailed to it's bed and found alive after legal shooting time. I have to assume we have our firearms unloaded and encased at this point because we are following the law at this point. I would back out and allow the animal to expire. The animal is still alive at this point so I am neither abandoning the meat or allowing it to spoil. I can always go back in a few hours to see if the animal has expired.

In order to clear my conscience, I would have to be night hunting (hunting after dark, uncased and loaded firearm after dark where there is game present and using a spotlight) in order to ease my guilt over this animal's suffering and I am not prepared to do that. Every year we hear of stories about guys who decide that their ethics trump the law ("duck hunters" who shoot 15 mins before/after legal time, "long distance" hunters abandoning crippled animals because they don't have fortitude to do proper searches, etc) and we rightfully condemn them for it. This situation should not be any different. It allows a bad element into our ranks which we don't want. We have a hard enough time as hunters portraying a positive image to the non-hunting public, allowing ethics to trump law just exasperates the Elmer Fudd image we don't want applied to us.

I have been in this situation. It sucks. I opted to follow the law rather than ease my conscience. By having to live with that decision made me do better because I never wanted to feel like that again.
November 11th, 2019, 11:02 AM
fishfood

My bad Canadian 30 I thought it stated it was left for the yotes. Leaving it for the coyotes would be letting if spoil.

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November 11th, 2019, 11:31 AM
fishfood

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Originally Posted by fishfood

My bad Canadian 30 I thought it stated it was left for the yotes. Leaving it for the coyotes would be letting if spoil.

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Originally Posted by canadaman30

Loosing a animal from a bad shot while hunting with a license is not a crime. Not sure where you think that's a crime considering it happens much to often. Discharging a firearm after dark is an offence, loosing an animal from poor shot placement is not. Harvesting an animal and then allowing it to rot is an offence, and is not the same as loosing wounded game.

It is stated they never went back in the morning their for pretty much admitted they let it spoil. Had to go back and re read so basically they left it for the yotes since they never went to look for it the next day. Yet found it wounded before, so in terms not going back for it is letting it spoil. It was not a deer they did not find . It was a deer that was found left and then never even bothered to go check it out the following day. That would be a crime.

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November 11th, 2019, 11:32 AM
canadaman30

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Originally Posted by fishfood

My bad Canadian 30 I thought it stated it was left for the yotes. Leaving it for the coyotes would be letting if spoil.

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Any wounded game not collected is left for the yotes, that's just what happens to the weak. It's not a crime to loose wounded game.
November 11th, 2019, 11:37 AM
canadaman30

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Originally Posted by fishfood

It is stated they never went back in the morning their for pretty much admitted they left it spoil. Had to go back and re read so basically they left it for the yotes since they never went to look for it the next day. Yet found it wounded before in terms not going back for it is letting it spoil.

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It's still not a crime to not go back the next day after searching with no luck the night before...
November 11th, 2019, 11:47 AM
fishfood

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Originally Posted by canadaman30

It's still not a crime to not go back the next day after searching with no luck the night before...

But that's not the case here is says they found it. So not going back the next day is a crime. Never finding the deer the night before is a different story. But they found it knew it was wounded then never bothered with it again.

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November 11th, 2019, 12:19 PM
canadaman30

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Originally Posted by fishfood

But that's not the case here is says they found it. So not going back the next day is a crime. Never finding the deer the night before is a different story. But they found it knew it was wounded then never bothered with it again.

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No it's not a criminal offence to stop looking for wounded game. Where in the criminal code is this crime written?
November 11th, 2019, 12:39 PM
fishfood

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Originally Posted by canadaman30

No it's not a criminal offence to stop looking for wounded game. Where in the criminal code is this crime written?

They weren't looking for it ..

They FOUND it and LEFT IT ...

So it's not a crime to find a wounded animal that you shot then just leave it.

I call bull and it would be totally against the law to leave an wounded animal when its FOUND. You found it wounded then just left it there to never go back would classifie as letting a game animal spoil.

We are not talking about a game animal that is never found. They found it knew where it was and LEFT IT. big differences.

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