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Going one grain over book , you are risking damage to your fire arm and possibly yourself by exceeding safe pressure limits, as the max. loads listed are that , MAXIMUM LOADS tested to safe pressures .[/QUOTE]
Maximum loads are what are generally considered safe for any rifle of that caliber. There are many variables that can result in a safe load being a grain or two over (or under) this figure. You may not be able to achieve much accuracy with these loads but then again, each rifle is a little bit different.....just like women.
I think I will look for ruger m77, seems to be reasonably priced and descent reviews, already have 10/22
jaz,Quote:
Originally Posted by jazboxer
you may want to read this article...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruger_M77
According to this article there are still ongoing complaints about the M77 Hawkeye trigger. It may be worth some research or even better, go find one and dry fire it to get a feel for the trigger.
45-70 Lever action. shorter barrel, fast shooting, fast swinging, lots of knock down power, great in the brushQuote:
Originally Posted by jazboxer
Im going to call BS on that one. They dont even reference a source. Likely someone with an axe to grind wrote the wikipedia article.Quote:
Originally Posted by DGearyFTE
Even my old M77 has an acceptable trigger for hunting.
My personal preference, if looking for a good used gun in an all around caliber, would be in .308. Some really good auto loaders, pumps, bolt guns out there and with the popularity of the .308 there should be plenty of choices. I've been mostly shooting my 7 mag lately, but I'm just recently bought another .308 (new) in a Remington 700. I started out big game hunting with a .308 back in the late 60's and shot more moose, bear and deer with that rifle that I can remember. Ranges varied from 10 feet to 300 yards, conditions from thick brush where your could hardly shoulder the rifle to wide open marshes that stretched as far as the eye could see. This was in a Remington Model 742 Woodsmaster - autoloader. In well over 40 years, and many thousands of rounds, that rifle never had one misfire, failure to feed, or any other mechanical problem. Like I said, a lot of great guns out there, but I'll never sell any of mine.
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Originally Posted by blasted_saber
I tend to agree with this statement. This likely comes from people with inflated expectations from a $700 production rifle or those who just cant shoot. The 77's are a great rifle and a bargain at their price point in my opinion.
Good to know. To be clear, I don't own a 77 and I have not shot one so I am in no way stating this is the case. I will stick by the statement that it is a good idea to hold one before buying. Not just this rifle, but I am sure you guys will agree, any rifle.Quote:
Originally Posted by mox72
It would be interesting to understand where the wiki statement originated as IMO they tend to be very non-biased.
Actually, anything written on wikipedia should be taken with a grain of salt. Anyone can write the articles. You could create an account and go edit just about anything to whatever you want it to say. If i wanted to I could go to the Ruger wiki right now and edit out the line about the poor triggers.Quote:
Originally Posted by DGearyFTE
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