Perhap's But no sense in labeling a group? stop poaching we as a collective group have to stay together!
Perhap's But no sense in labeling a group? stop poaching we as a collective group have to stay together!
I hunt with a crossbow now, as my shoulder injury prevents me using a compound. I always shot a compound, and before that I had recurve bows. The guys I hunt with all use crossbows, I have yet to see a crossbow that was silent ! Mine is louder than my compound was. My buddy's Excal is louder yet. I think you are also reaching when you say crossbows result in more wounded moose, and moose abandoned. Most often, guys that yap about crossbows, don't have one and know very little about them.Quote:
Originally Posted by wolfhunter
So...xbows are easy to use and give unfair advantage because of this ease of mastery but yet they lead to more lost game because people can't master them?
News / Canada
Declining moose populations in some areas of Ontario puzzles biologists
The decline of moose populations in certain parts of Ontario reflects a growing concern across some other parts of North America.
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A bull moose is seen in this file photo in Manitoba. That province as well as parts of Ontario are seeing declining numbers.
By: Curtis Rush Sports reporter, Published on Wed Oct 16 2013
Moose populations are thinning out in certain parts of Ontario, mirroring a disturbing pattern across other parts of North America.
Why the numbers are dropping in certain areas — while they are climbing in others — isn’t known.
In one part of Minnesota, moose populations have declined to fewer than 100 from 4,000 in the 1990s.
Wildlife officials in the northeast have suspended all moose hunting until research provides more answers.
“Something’s changed,” Nicholas DeCesare, a biologist with the Montana Department of Fish, Wildlife and Parks, told the New York Times.
“There’s fewer moose out there, and hunters are working harder to find them.”
Brant Allison, senior northwest regional biologist with Ontario’s Ministry of Natural Resources, says that moose “are important to the biodiversity of the province.”
Allison said he is seeing declines in Canadian jurisdictions near Minnesota, including Manitoba and the northwestern and northeastern parts of Ontario.
“We are definitely concerned,” he said, adding that biologists in Ontario have been in touch with their counterparts in Minnesota and Manitoba to see what the current research reveals.
“We are watching. They’re still trying to figure it out,” he said.
In the southeast part of Manitoba, some of the moose hunts have been closed for roughly past year.
Although several factors may be at play, climate change has been identified as a possible explanation.
In the Cariboo Mountains of British Columbia, a recent study found that an epidemic of pine bark beetles led to a loss of trees and left the moose more exposed to human and animal predators.
Last April in Smithers, a moose severely infested with ticks had to be euthanized after it wandered into the flower section of a Safeway grocery store.
In Montana, moose hunting permits fell to 362 last year, from 769 in 1995, the New York Times has reported.
Overall, however, the moose population in Ontario is regarded as healthy, with a population estimated at about 105,000, accounting for about 10 per cent of the North American population.
The areas of concern are the northwestern part of Ontario such as the Kenora-Dryden region, as well as an area running along the north shore of Lake Huron, from Sault Ste. Marie and Wawa to the Quebec border.
The Ministry of Nature Resources has identified issues such as habitat, climate, parasites, predation and harvesting by hunters.
On the positive side, moose numbers appear to have increased in the southern portion of the province, particularly in and adjacent to Algonquin Provincial Park.
The ministry monitors moose populations by aerial inventory surveys and post card survey information collected each year from moose hunters.
In the 1980s, Ontario saw the moose population dip to around 80,000. After strict controls were put in place on moose hunting, the numbers climbed back.
Could anyone tell me why mnr would put out 641 more cow (breeding stock/ mothers) tags in 2014 over 2013 across ontario? Instead of blaming each other we need to look at the missmanagement of our natural resources!!
What is the distribution of those tags? Ontario is an enormous province and the addition of tags in an area that can support wont have any effect on the moose in an area that can't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowhunter54
From the article you posted above
"Overall, however, the moose population in Ontario is regarded as healthy, with a population estimated at about 105,000, accounting for about 10 per cent of the North American population."
program mismanagement , days getting warmer and non ethical hunters. first the mnr should know increasing cows and calf numbers to be taken will reduce population numbers in the years to come, they should seek the farmers advice you dont keep increasing cows taken and think your herd will expand, ethical hunters should know there max distance for shooting and when a moose is hit take the time to look for sign heard of hunters hitting moose and just looking where it was shot no blood they dont go any farther sometimes blood may not start for some yards but some hunters are road hunters if its not dropped there maybe the next one will be. with weather getting warmer its puts stress on the moose and with bear numbers increasing they dont have an easy moment . most ministry bioligists wont seek imput they are stubborn and think they know best until the resource is in serious need of help then they blame other factors never admitting it may have been what they did its sad from the early days when the ministry was properly funded and the people working there cared more for the resource than how much the job paid.
I'm new to moose hunting.. Well hunting in general. This year will be my first year hunting moose..
I do not understand the reason behind hunting calf's.. I mean what logic is it to give calf tags to everyone?
How do hunting calves help the moose population?
A number of reasonsQuote:
Originally Posted by topher
Its easier to kill a bull then a calf. If we allowed everyone to hunt bulls we'd wipe moose out quickly. Hunting calves is actually pretty challenging. Deer are very different. They have a higher fecundity rate and a much higher overall population. We can allow everyone to have a tag for a buck.
It allows everyone to hunt moose. If we only hunted adults most people wouldnt draw a tag and wouldnt hunt moose.
Calves are not part of the breeding population. For some species (I dont know about moose in Ontario in particular) biologists dont factor in non-breeding members of a population at all in terms of population health. Unless the individual is contributing RIGHT NOW to the breeding health of a herd they arent factored in.
I believe the rationale for allowing the calf harvest was that a high percentage of calves are taken in their first year by preditors, or otherwise don't make it through their first winter. I recall the figure of. 40% mortality the first year. I guess the idea was/is to allow hunters to take those calves, as opposed to predation. My opinion is the predators will still take their 40% of the calves, regardless of what percentage are taken by hunters. Like previously posted, calves are harder to hunt. Our group has only taken three calves in over 35 years. We don't target calves, and have only happened upon the three we did get. By allowing every moose licence to come with a calf game seal, it increases hunting opportunities, creating more revenue, in my opinion !Quote:
Originally Posted by topher