Blaze orange vest question

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Originally Posted by Snowwalker

Think about it mike.........waterfowler......no orange...100% legal...
He's pulling your leg.

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Or he lives in Alberta...

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Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers

"Because CO's are nosey buggers and like to talk and talk and talk interfering with my hunt or fishing . And then they tell others where I'm at, or successful, or I later see them there hunting or fishing too"

So which is it as I see it can't have it both ways.

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It all depends where you hunt and park your vehicle.

Hunting on public land or parking your vehicle on the side of the road, you'll see more CO's. Hunting on a private farm where your vehicle is parked behind the barn or out of sight from the road, a lot less likely to encounter a CO.

There should nothing wrong with encountering CO's.............they are just doing there job. The majority of them are nice guys and willing to report on the success of other hunters they check.

I ran into a lot of them over the years and the same one's.

In regards to wearing blaze orange, I wear it during the big game and small game seasons and I consider my success the same or better as in the 80's early 90's. Besides law, it's the responsible thing to do. I've talked to hunters that have been pelted with #6 and 7 1/2 shot................not fun at all!

So why take the risk?

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Originally Posted by welsh

Got those numbers?

Mandatory hunter's ed and blaze orange were introduced at different times in different states and provinces. In many places, mandatory hunter's ed is quite recent. There has been an ongoing decline in hunting accidents. Pretty difficult to disentangle which of the two is responsible.

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Nope, i don't, but there're out there.
You made the claim that orange is reducing hunting accidents.
I was referring to Ontario introducing orange in the late 80's early 90's.
It didn't come in with much fan fair. For the reason I already mentioned.

Hunters Orange has been around in Ontario, NB, NS and Quebec since early 1970's. Hunters ed only became mandatorey in these provinces in the 1990's.

yes the accident rate did start dropping when hunters orange was introduced.

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Originally Posted by onelessarrow

Nope, i don't, but there're out there.
You made the claim that orange is reducing hunting accidents.
I was referring to Ontario introducing orange in the late 80's early 90's.
It didn't come in with much fan fair. For the reason I already mentioned.

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FinsFurFeathers . Relax , some of my comments are dry and tongue in cheek . I've dealt closely with CO's over the years and not because I break laws . I don't mind seeing them at all at anytime and I use the time wisely to interrogate them at every opportunity .:thumbup: Sometimes find out nice little tidbits of info where a hotbite is going on etc . :thumbup:

TD

There is no research on the effects of hunter orange clothing on rates of hunting accidents in Canada.

There is, however, for the States. To look at the effects of hunter orange we must first discard hunting accidents that are not firearm-related (fall from tree stand, etc.), those related to simple negligence (unsafe handling, negligent discharge, etc.), and those related to mechanical causes (obstruction in barrel, etc.) and focus on those that hunter orange is supposed to help prevent: person mistaken for game or not seen, person shot by hunter swinging on game.

1. in states where hunter orange regulations are introduced, there is normally a substantial reduction in the overall rate of hunting accidents and specifically on those accidents that hunter orange ought to help prevent.
2. in states where hunter orange is voluntary, the great majority of victims in shootings where someone is not seen, mistaken for game, etc. are not wearing hunter orange.

It's fairly obvious that hunter orange reduces accidents.

I took mandatory course in the 80's. Didn't have to wear orange for deer then either. You might have them backwards gw.

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Originally Posted by BirdIsTheWord

So I've been searching like crazy for a pack that functions as a bird vest, but that will also allow me to carry gear with me on full day hunts. I've got my heart set on the Badlands Upland Bird vest, except for one thing. I called my local outdoors shop, and they told me that the vest isn't true "Blaze" orange.

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I don't know if this has been covered yet, so might be too late to the game ( haven't gone through the 5 pages yet), but I just bought two blaze orange hunters vests, one for me, one for my Pack, Which I wrapped it around it. I think I got the idea from a similar thread on here.
When waterfowling I just unclip (Really I think I used a safety pin) and then there's no orange.

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Originally Posted by welsh

There is no research on the effects of hunter orange clothing on rates of hunting accidents in Canada.

There is, however, for the States. To look at the effects of hunter orange we must first discard hunting accidents that are not firearm-related (fall from tree stand, etc.), those related to simple negligence (unsafe handling, negligent discharge, etc.), and those related to mechanical causes (obstruction in barrel, etc.) and focus on those that hunter orange is supposed to help prevent: person mistaken for game or not seen, person shot by hunter swinging on game.

1. in states where hunter orange regulations are introduced, there is normally a substantial reduction in the overall rate of hunting accidents and specifically on those accidents that hunter orange ought to help prevent.
2. in states where hunter orange is voluntary, the great majority of victims in shootings where someone is not seen, mistaken for game, etc. are not wearing hunter orange.

It's fairly obvious that hunter orange reduces accidents.

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Got those numbers?
Again, today's concealment (camo) may have more to do with that then it did way back when.
However, if it's that obvious. Why isn't it across all of North America and why are blaze orange hunters still being shot in Ontario?

I wear my blaze all the time, even at lunch when it's hot and I'm in a t-shirt, not because I feel safer, because it's a requirement.
I rather hunt with 20 well educated hunters without orange then 20 trigger happy hunters all decked out.